Re: Is a modern build system acceptable for older platforms

From: Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Yuriy Zhuravlev <stalkerg(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: p(dot)psql(at)pinaraf(dot)info, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Is a modern build system acceptable for older platforms
Date: 2018-05-28 08:13:35
Message-ID: CAMsr+YH2o4VHvJy2kfNGpNC-=OLrxwWTodCUx4-FQnjddRuEtg@mail.gmail.com
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On 28 May 2018 at 16:02, Yuriy Zhuravlev <stalkerg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:

> пн, 28 мая 2018 г. в 16:42, Pierre Ducroquet <p(dot)psql(at)pinaraf(dot)info>:
>
>> On Monday, May 28, 2018 4:37:06 AM CEST Yuriy Zhuravlev wrote:
>> > > Can't see getting rid of those entirely. None of the github style
>> > > platforms copes with reasonable complex discussions.
>> >
>> > I disagree. A good example of complex discussions on github is Rust
>> > language tracker for RFCs:
>> > https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues
>> > and one concrete example: https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2327
>> > I have no any problem with complex discussions on github.
>>
>> It is indeed hard to follow on github, and would be even worse with
>> bigger
>> threads.
>> Email readers show threads in a hierarchical way, we can see who answered
>> to
>> who, discussions can fork to completely different aspects of an issue
>> without
>> being mixed together.
>>
> Anyway I have no this feature on GMail web interface. But yes, sometimes
> it's usefull.
> On github you can make new issue and move some messages, it shoud be done
> by moderator.
>
>
>>
>> > Anyway, it's much better than tons of emails in your mailbox without
>> tags
>> > and status of discussion.
>>
>> A github thread does not show what I read / what I have to read, does it
>> now ?
>>
> On github you have notifications about new messages in subsribed issues,
> and if you follow links from https://github.com/notifications these links
> disappear.
> Also, don't forget about browser bookmarks and other plugins for that, web
> much more flexible than emails.
>

None of which is about the build system.

FWIW, I don't agree with your conclusions re the build system. It's more
than just a bunch of conservative dinosaurs not wanting to change how they
do anything, though you can frame it that way if you like. It's that a
change needs to offer really compelling benefits, and I don't think enough
people are convinced of those benefits.

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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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