From: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jan Wieck <jan(at)wi3ck(dot)info>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, AMatveev(at)bitec(dot)ru, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: One process per session lack of sharing |
Date: | 2016-07-19 00:33:20 |
Message-ID: | CAMsr+YH=H0Avr_GWqyxaiBu+7DaJ9ArRADXyACch6AmdnSXvjA@mail.gmail.com |
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On 19 July 2016 at 03:53, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> On 2016-07-18 15:47:58 -0400, Robert Haas wrote:
> > I think the risk profile is exactly the opposite of what you are
> > suggesting here. If we provide an option to compile the server with
> > all global variables converted to thread-local variables, there's
> > really not a whole lot that can break, AFAICS.
>
> Using TLS will slow down things noticeably though. So if we were to go
> there, we'd have to make up for some constant slowdown.
>
>
Does TLS really have more of a performance impact than process context
switches?
Genuine question, I'm clueless in the area.
> > We'll technically be multi-threaded but the code need not know or care
> > about the other threads; only in the event of a memory clobber can
> > they affect each other.
>
> But that'll make it pretty hard to take advantage of multi-threading to
> a meaningful degree. Except for being able to create shared memory after
> the fact - quite useful! - there'd not be much point.
>
Yeah. TLS is too simplistic. To do any useful parallel work without
serialization/deserialization, some threads need to be in groups with other
threads, sharing some data structures but having private copies of others.
That said, TLS can be used as a reasonable default state, then individual
data structures extracted and shared more formally when needed. So it's a
sane starting point.
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Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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