From: | Craig Ringer <craig(dot)ringer(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Mario Becroft <mb(at)true(dot)group>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Ilya Shkuratov <motr(dot)ilya(at)ya(dot)ru>, Joe Conway <mail(at)joeconway(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Gavin Flower <GavinFlower(at)archidevsys(dot)co(dot)nz>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Serge Rielau <serge(at)rielau(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: CTE inlining |
Date: | 2017-05-05 00:03:01 |
Message-ID: | CAMsr+YG1O7hdbSWozO4fyTNf9pcXQEv=1Om1=THCJwQJFow97g@mail.gmail.com |
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On 5 May 2017 02:52, "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On 5/4/17 8:03 PM, Joe Conway wrote:
>>> I haven't been able to follow this incredibly long thread, so please
>>> excuse me if way off base, but are we talking about that a CTE would be
>>> silently be rewritten as an inline expression potentially unless it is
>>> decorated with some new syntax?
> I agree with this, but there's a difference between "executed exactly
> once" and "producing the same result as if executed exactly once".
> I may be misunderstanding what other people proposed in this thread, but
> I think the plan was to only inline CTEs where we know it won't change
> the results, etc. So e.g. CTEs with volatile functions would not get
> inlined, which includes nextval() for example.
I haven't been keeping close tabs either, but surely we still have to have
the optimization fence in (at least) all these cases:
* CTE contains INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE
* CTE contains SELECT FOR UPDATE/SHARE (else the set of rows that get
locked might change)
* CTE contains volatile functions
I'm willing to write off cases where, eg, a function should have been
marked volatile and was not. That's user error and there are plenty
of hazards of that kind already. But if the optimizer has reason
to know that discarding the fence might change any query side-effects,
it mustn't.
I think everyone is in total agreement there.
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