From: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Christophe Pettus <xof(at)thebuild(dot)com> |
Cc: | Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Andrew Gierth <andrew(at)tao11(dot)riddles(dot)org(dot)uk>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Anthony Iliopoulos <ailiop(at)altatus(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Catalin Iacob <iacobcatalin(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: PostgreSQL's handling of fsync() errors is unsafe and risks data loss at least on XFS |
Date: | 2018-04-08 10:30:31 |
Message-ID: | CAMsr+YFV7kXpQ_6jBR4w+Vugxk4fVnQQe=AgOu5Rs+6hMKfDbw@mail.gmail.com |
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On 8 April 2018 at 11:46, Christophe Pettus <xof(at)thebuild(dot)com> wrote:
>
> > On Apr 7, 2018, at 20:27, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > Right now I think we're at option (4): If you see anything that smells
> like a write error in your kernel logs, hard-kill postgres with -m
> immediate (do NOT let it do a shutdown checkpoint). If it did a checkpoint
> since the logs, fake up a backup label to force redo to start from the last
> checkpoint before the error. Otherwise, it's safe to just let it start up
> again and do redo again.
>
> Before we spiral down into despair and excessive alcohol consumption, this
> is basically the same situation as a checksum failure or some other kind of
> uncorrected media-level error. The bad part is that we have to find out
> from the kernel logs rather than from PostgreSQL directly. But this does
> not strike me as otherwise significantly different from, say, an
> infrequently-accessed disk block reporting an uncorrectable error when we
> finally get around to reading it.
>
I don't entirely agree - because it affects ENOSPC, I/O errors on thin
provisioned storage, I/O errors on multipath storage, etc. (I identified
the original issue on a thin provisioned system that ran out of backing
space, mangling PostgreSQL in a way that made no sense at the time).
These are way more likely than bit flips or other storage level corruption,
and things that we previously expected to detect and fail gracefully for.
--
Craig Ringer http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Training & Services
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