From: | Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: optimizing vacuum truncation scans |
Date: | 2015-06-29 05:54:02 |
Message-ID: | CAMkU=1yY_7jjhvSZ-SsA2MVn1+nSYo3VNRgMVQmr_XGrmzvxeQ@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/20/15 1:50 AM, Jeff Janes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> For that matter, why do we scan backwards anyway? The comments don't
>>> explain it, and we have nonempty_pages as a starting point, so why
>>> don't we just scan forward? I suspect that eons ago we didn't have
>>> that and just blindly reverse-scanned until we finally hit a
>>> non-empty buffer...
>>>
>>>
>>> nonempty_pages is not concurrency safe, as the pages could become used
>>> after vacuum passed them over but before the access exclusive lock was
>>> grabbed before the truncation scan. But maybe the combination of the
>>> two? If it is above nonempty_pages, then anyone who wrote into the page
>>> after vacuum passed it must have cleared the VM bit. And currently I
>>> think no one but vacuum ever sets VM bit back on, so once cleared it
>>> would stay cleared.
>>>
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> In any event nonempty_pages could be used to set the guess as to how
>>> many pages (if any) might be worth prefetching, as that is not needed
>>> for correctness.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, but I think we'd do a LOT better with the VM idea, because we could
>> immediately truncate without scanning anything.
>
>
> Right now all the interlocks to make this work seem to be in place (only
> vacuum and startup can set visibility map bits, and only one vacuum can be
> in a table at a time). But as far as I can tell, those assumption are not
> "baked in" and we have pondered loosening them before.
>
> For example, letting HOT clean up mark a page as all-visible if it finds
> it be such. Now in that specific case it would be OK, as HOT cleanup would
> not cause a page to become empty (or could it? If an insert on a table
> with no indexes was rolled back, and hot clean up found it and cleaned it
> up, it could conceptually become empty--unless we make special code to
> prevent it) , and so the page would have to be below nonempty_pages. But
> there may be other cases.
>
> And I know other people have mentioned making VACUUM concurrent (although
> I don't see the value in that myself).
>
> So doing it this way would be hard to beat (scanning a bitmap vs the table
> itself), but it would also introduce a modularity violation that I am not
> sure is worth it.
>
> Of course this could always be reverted if its requirements became a
> problem for a more important change (assuming of course that we detected
> the problem)
>
Attached is a patch that implements the vm scan for truncation. It
introduces a variable to hold the last blkno which was skipped during the
forward portion. Any blocks after both this blkno and after the last
inspected nonempty page (which the code is already tracking) must have been
observed to be empty by the current vacuum. Any other process rendering
the page nonempty are required to clear the vm bit, and no other process
can set the bit again during the vacuum's lifetime. So if the bit is still
set, the page is still empty without needing to inspect it.
There is still the case of pages which had their visibility bit set by a
prior vacuum and then were not inspected by the current one. Once the
truncation scan runs into these pages, it falls back to the previous
behavior of reading block by block backwards. So there could still be
reason to optimize that fallback using forward-reading prefetch.
Using the previously shown test case, this patch reduces the truncation
part of the vacuum to 2 seconds.
Cheers,
Jeff
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