From: | Hannu Krosing <hannuk(at)google(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org>, "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: What is a typical precision of gettimeofday()? |
Date: | 2024-06-20 11:08:57 |
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Another thing I changed in reporting was to report <= ns instead of < ns
This was inspired by not wanting to report "zero ns" as "< 1 ns" and
easiest was to change them all to <=
On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:41 PM Hannu Krosing <hannuk(at)google(dot)com> wrote:
>
> (resending to list and other CC:s )
>
> Hi Tom
>
> This is my current patch which also adds running % and optionally uses
> faster way to count leading zeros, though I did not see a change from
> that.
>
> It also bucketizes first 128 ns to get better overview of exact behaviour.
>
> We may want to put reporting this behind a flag
>
> ---
> Hannu
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 6:36 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> >
> > Peter Eisentraut <peter(at)eisentraut(dot)org> writes:
> > > AFAICT, pg_test_timing doesn't use gettimeofday(), so this doesn't
> > > really address the original question.
> >
> > It's not exactly hard to make it do so (see attached).
> >
> > I tried this on several different machines, and my conclusion is that
> > gettimeofday() reports full microsecond precision on any platform
> > anybody is likely to be running PG on today. Even my one surviving
> > pet dinosaur, NetBSD 10 on PowerPC Mac (mamba), shows results like
> > this:
> >
> > $ ./pg_test_timing
> > Testing timing overhead for 3 seconds.
> > Per loop time including overhead: 901.41 ns
> > Histogram of timing durations:
> > < us % of total count
> > 1 10.46074 348148
> > 2 89.51495 2979181
> > 4 0.00574 191
> > 8 0.00430 143
> > 16 0.00691 230
> > 32 0.00376 125
> > 64 0.00012 4
> > 128 0.00303 101
> > 256 0.00027 9
> > 512 0.00009 3
> > 1024 0.00009 3
> >
> > I also modified pg_test_timing to measure nanoseconds not
> > microseconds (second patch attached), and got this:
> >
> > $ ./pg_test_timing
> > Testing timing overhead for 3 seconds.
> > Per loop time including overhead: 805.50 ns
> > Histogram of timing durations:
> > < ns % of total count
> > 1 19.84234 739008
> > 2 0.00000 0
> > 4 0.00000 0
> > 8 0.00000 0
> > 16 0.00000 0
> > 32 0.00000 0
> > 64 0.00000 0
> > 128 0.00000 0
> > 256 0.00000 0
> > 512 0.00000 0
> > 1024 80.14013 2984739
> > 2048 0.00078 29
> > 4096 0.00658 245
> > 8192 0.00290 108
> > 16384 0.00252 94
> > 32768 0.00250 93
> > 65536 0.00016 6
> > 131072 0.00185 69
> > 262144 0.00008 3
> > 524288 0.00008 3
> > 1048576 0.00008 3
> >
> > confirming that when the result changes it generally does so by 1usec.
> >
> > Applying just the second patch, I find that clock_gettime on this
> > old hardware seems to be limited to 1us resolution, but on my more
> > modern machines (mac M1, x86_64) it can tick at 40ns or less.
> > Even a raspberry pi 4 shows
> >
> > $ ./pg_test_timing
> > Testing timing overhead for 3 seconds.
> > Per loop time including overhead: 69.12 ns
> > Histogram of timing durations:
> > < ns % of total count
> > 1 0.00000 0
> > 2 0.00000 0
> > 4 0.00000 0
> > 8 0.00000 0
> > 16 0.00000 0
> > 32 0.00000 0
> > 64 37.59583 16317040
> > 128 62.38568 27076131
> > 256 0.01674 7265
> > 512 0.00002 8
> > 1024 0.00000 0
> > 2048 0.00000 0
> > 4096 0.00153 662
> > 8192 0.00019 83
> > 16384 0.00001 3
> > 32768 0.00001 5
> >
> > suggesting that the clock_gettime resolution is better than 64 ns.
> >
> > So I concur with Hannu that it's time to adjust pg_test_timing to
> > resolve nanoseconds not microseconds. I gather he's created a
> > patch that does more than mine below, so I'll wait for that.
> >
> > regards, tom lane
> >
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