From: | Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu> |
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To: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
Cc: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: Removing more vacuumlazy.c special cases, relfrozenxid optimizations |
Date: | 2022-02-05 03:20:49 |
Message-ID: | CAM-w4HNCcEsrtNCS-eDgS6wsPJ+rttz3jsHHizxo6rNjXXJSWg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, 15 Dec 2021 at 15:30, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
>
> My emphasis here has been on making non-aggressive VACUUMs *always*
> advance relfrozenxid, outside of certain obvious edge cases. And so
> with all the patches applied, up to and including the opportunistic
> freezing patch, every autovacuum of every table manages to advance
> relfrozenxid during benchmarking -- usually to a fairly recent value.
> I've focussed on making aggressive VACUUMs (especially anti-wraparound
> autovacuums) a rare occurrence, for truly exceptional cases (e.g.,
> user keeps canceling autovacuums, maybe due to automated script that
> performs DDL). That has taken priority over other goals, for now.
While I've seen all the above cases triggering anti-wraparound cases
by far the majority of the cases are not of these pathological forms.
By far the majority of anti-wraparound vacuums are triggered by tables
that are very large and so don't trigger regular vacuums for "long
periods" of time and consistently hit the anti-wraparound threshold
first.
There's nothing limiting how long "long periods" is and nothing tying
it to the rate of xid consumption. It's quite common to have some
*very* large mostly static tables in databases that have other tables
that are *very* busy.
The worst I've seen is a table that took 36 hours to vacuum in a
database that consumed about a billion transactions per day... That's
extreme but these days it's quite common to see tables that get
anti-wraparound vacuums every week or so despite having < 1% modified
tuples. And databases are only getting bigger and transaction rates
faster...
--
greg
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