Re: Let's Do the CoC Right

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>
wrote:

> On 24 January 2016 at 00:15, Steve Litt <slitt(at)troubleshooters(dot)com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 00:00:27 +0000
> > Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj> wrote:
> >> Did I say we all need equal protection? No. I said we're all entitled
> >> to the same level of protection.
> >
> > The preceding two sentences form a distinction that will need some
> > elaboration.
>
> I'm not quite sure how. Maybe English isn't your first language?
>
> http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/entitle
> http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/need
>
> > Come on, the preceding is contrived to the point of being silly. You
> > know exactly what I mean.
>
> No, it absolutely isn't. Your point is "here is a group of people who
> have no right to an opinion because XYZ". My point is that by
> generalising to the group you are ignoring the individuals within it.
>

With due respect to everyone in this conversation, the emphasis should not
be in protecting people. It should be in protecting the project as a
common endeavor. Protecting individuals from certain kinds of behavior is
necessary in accomplishing that. But it isn't the primary goal and should
not be.

I also think it is important to set that expectation early on. That this
is about the needs of the community.

I am concerned that there is a drive to jump on a particular cultural
bandwagon here which may *appear* to be inclusive but is in fact very
exclusionary and would push the project into a very distinctly political
direction internationally.

> Geoff
>
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