Re: Shared system resources

From: oleg yusim <olegyusim(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: George Neuner <gneuner2(at)comcast(dot)net>
Cc: PostgreSQL General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Shared system resources
Date: 2015-12-23 17:10:08
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Thank you very much George, that is exactly the piece of information I was
missing.

Oleg

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM, George Neuner <gneuner2(at)comcast(dot)net>
wrote:

> Hi Oleg,
>
> On Wed, 23 Dec 2015 07:07:31 -0600, oleg yusim <olegyusim(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
> >May we run into situation, when attacker dumps memory and analyses it for
> >valuable content, instead of reserving it for own process, where it would
> >be zeroed? My understanding, it is a possibility. Does kernel have any
> >safeguard against it?
>
> With recent kernels, by default there is no way for a userspace
> process (even root) to dump memory. Older kernels by default
> permitted a root process unrestricted access to /dev/mem and
> /dev/kmem, however in general that isn't needed and has long been
> disabled by the mahor distros. [see CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM]. IIRC, the
> default setting was changed in 2011.
>
> With sufficient privileges, a debugger-like process can attach and
> examine the memory of a running - or just terminated - process, but it
> won't have access to discarded (unmapped) memory.
>
> The MAP_UNINITIALIZED trick, even if it works, is not a predictable
> attack vector. There is no way to ask for any *particular* VMM page -
> mmap() just gives you a set of pages sufficient to cover the requested
> address range ... you don't know what process those pages previously
> belonged to. Obviously there is a known algorithm for satisfying the
> page requests, but the set of free pages includes both code and data
> and depends on the history of system activity. There's no guarantee
> to get anything useful.
>
> I'm not sure any of this really answers your question.
> George
>
>
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