Re: Add Option To Check All Addresses For Matching target_session_attr

From: Andrew Jackson <andrewjackson947(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>
Cc: Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov(dot)vladimir(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Add Option To Check All Addresses For Matching target_session_attr
Date: 2025-02-24 16:07:33
Message-ID: CAKK5BkFxUk3yuRDrM1qWUerhwq3ig6L41CGrHWF8rD7c7xH8_Q@mail.gmail.com
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Looks like this needed another rebase to account for the oauth commit.
Rebase attached.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 9:38 AM Andrew Jackson <andrewjackson947(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thank you for the review!
>
> Review Response
>
> - Made a first pass at a real commit message
> - Fixed the condition on the if statement to use strcmp
> - Added a test suite in the files `src/interfaces/libpq/t/
> 006_target_session_attr_dns.pl` and `src/interfaces/libpq/t/
> 007_load_balance_dns_check_all_addrs.pl` which checks the
> target_session_attrs as when used with and without load balancing.
>
> Regarding the name of the variable itself I am definitely open to opinions
> on this. I didn't put too much thought initially and just chose
> `check_all_addrs`. I feel like given that it modifies the behaviour of
> `target_session_attrs` ideally it should reference that in the name but
> that would make that variable name very long: something akin to
> `target_session_attrs_check_all_addrs`.
>
> Context
>
> I tested some drivers as well and found that pgx, psycopg, and
> rust-postgres all traverse every IP address when looking for a matching
> target_session_attrs. Asyncpg and psycopg2 on the other hand follow libpq
> and terminate additional attempts after the first failure. Given this it
> seems like there is a decent amount of fragmentation in the ecosystem as to
> how exactly to implement this feature. I believe some drivers choose to
> traverse all addresses because they have users target the same use case
> outlined above.
>
> Thanks again,
> Andrew Jackson
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 6:03 AM Andrey Borodin <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew!
>>
>> cc Jelte, I suspect he might be interested.
>>
>> > On 20 Nov 2024, at 20:51, Andrew Jackson <andrewjackson947(at)gmail(dot)com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Would appreciate any feedback on the applicability/relevancy of the
>> goal here or the implementation.
>>
>> Thank you for raising the issue. Following our discussion in Discord I'm
>> putting my thoughts to list.
>>
>>
>> Context
>>
>> A DNS record might return several IPs. Consider we have a connection
>> string with "host=A,B", A is resolved to 1.1.1.1,2.2.2.2, B to
>> 3.3.3.3,4.4.4.4.
>> If we connect with "target_session_attrs=read-write" IPs 1.1.1.1 and
>> 3.3.3.3 will be probed, but 2.2.2.2 and 4.4.4.4 won't (if 1.1.1.1 and
>> 3.3.3.3 responded).
>>
>> If we enable libpq load balancing some random 2 IPs will be probed.
>>
>> IMO it's a bug, at least when load balancing is enabled. Let's consider
>> if we can change default behavior here. I suspect we can't do it for
>> "load_balance_hosts=disable". And even for load balancing this might be too
>> unexpected change for someone.
>>
>> Further I only consider proposal not as a bug fix, but as a feature.
>>
>> In Discord we have surveyed some other drivers.
>> pgx treats all IPs as different servers [1]. npgsql goes through all IPs
>> one-by-one always [2]. PGJDBC are somewhat in a decision process [3] (cc
>> Dave and Vladimir, if they would like to provide some input).
>>
>>
>> Review
>>
>> The patch needs a rebase. It's trivial, so please fine attached. The
>> patch needs real commit message, it's not trivial :)
>>
>> We definitely need to adjust tests [0]. We need to change
>> 004_load_balance_dns.pl so that it tests target_session_attrs too.
>>
>> Some documentation would be nice.
>>
>> I do not like how this check is performed
>> + if (conn->check_all_addrs
>> && conn->check_all_addrs[0] == '1')
>> Let's make it like load balancing is done [4].
>>
>> Finally, let's think about naming alternatives for "check_all_addrs".
>>
>> I think that's enough for a first round of the review. If it's not a bug,
>> but a feature - it's a very narrow window to get to 18. But we might be
>> lucky...
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Andrey Borodin.
>>
>> [0]
>> https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/7f5b19817eaf38e70ad1153db4e644ee9456853e#diff-b05b74d2a97d7f74d4311ba1702d732f0df1b101c6ac99c146b51215174cf3ffR94
>> [1] https://github.com/jackc/pgx/blob/master/pgconn/pgconn.go#L177
>> [2]
>> https://github.com/npgsql/npgsql/blob/7f1a59fa8dc1ccc34a70154f49a768e1abf826ba/src/Npgsql/Internal/NpgsqlConnector.cs#L986
>> [3] https://github.com/pgjdbc/pgjdbc/pull/3012#discussion_r1408069450
>> [4]
>> https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/7f5b19817eaf38e70ad1153db4e644ee9456853e#diff-8d819454e061b9d4cdae9c8922ded05753a629d70f2ac1de1d4f6d5a4aeb7f68R1660
>>
>

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