From: | David Rowley <david(dot)rowley(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Subject: | Re: ATTACH/DETACH PARTITION CONCURRENTLY |
Date: | 2018-08-12 13:05:13 |
Message-ID: | CAKJS1f8tH49PLynQ6iTXmMptPAnn8OM3KHf0HEMXSeYHKr7M_Q@mail.gmail.com |
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On 8 August 2018 at 01:29, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
> One approach would be to make sure that everything relying on
> rt_partdesc staying the same stores its value in a local variable, and
> then *not* free the old version of rt_partdesc (etc) when the refcount >
> 0, but delay that to the RelationClose() that makes refcount reach
> 0. That'd be the start of a framework for more such concurrenct
> handling.
This is not a fully baked idea, but I'm wondering if a better way to
do this, instead of having this PartitionIsValid macro to determine if
the partition should be visible to the current transaction ID, we
could, when we invalidate a relcache entry, send along the transaction
ID that it's invalid from. Other backends when they process the
invalidation message they could wipe out the cache entry only if their
xid is >= the invalidation's "xmax" value. Otherwise, just tag the
xmax onto the cache somewhere and always check it before using the
cache (perhaps make it part of the RelationIsValid macro). This would
also require that we move away from SnapshotAny type catalogue scans
in favour of MVCC scans so that backends populating their relcache
build it based on their current xid. Unless I'm mistaken, it should
not make any difference for all DDL that takes an AEL on the relation,
since there can be no older transactions running when the catalogue is
modified, but for DDL that's not taking an AEL, we could effectively
have an MVCC relcache.
It would need careful thought about how it might affect CREATE INDEX
CONCURRENTLY and all the other DDL that can be performed without an
AEL.
I'm unsure how this would work for the catcache as I've studied that
code in even less detail, but throwing this out there in case there
some major flaw in this idea so that I don't go wasting time looking
into it further.
I think the PartitionIsValid idea was not that great as it really
complicates run-time partition pruning since it's quite critical about
partition indexes being the same between the planner and executor.
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David Rowley http://www.2ndQuadrant.com/
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