Re: BUG #17810: Update from 13.09 to 13.10 breaks SQLs with VACUUM

From: Cherio <cherio(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-bugs(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: BUG #17810: Update from 13.09 to 13.10 breaks SQLs with VACUUM
Date: 2023-02-27 18:41:56
Message-ID: CAKHqFkJGNLbbgY_=_4Gk9JioCOSh5iY++cGOfdB3_r+YNUW1wA@mail.gmail.com
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> I think you are working with a completely wrong mental model of what this
change did.

You are right. My mental model of the change is a speculation, but this is
only because the specifics of the change are not clarified anywhere.

From what you are saying I am deriving that transaction model is not
affected, and the individual statements still run within their own atomic
transactions when AutoCommit is enabled, it's just a limited set of
commands (at the moment I am aware of VACUUM and .... ANALYZE???) can't be
bundled with any other statements, because doing that blows up the new
pipeline :)

BTW, why ANALYZE? I just tested ANALYZE and it seems to work without the
need to be preceded with COMMIT.

Are VACUUM and ANALYZE the only commands that must be executed separately?
Again, is there at least a brief description of the scope of what was
affected?
I believe I understand it better now but the picture is still made of bits
and pieces glued with trial and error.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 1:11 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Cherio <cherio(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> > The second script should have tables used in the reversed order:
> > UPDATE tableA
> > UPDATE tableB
>
> > and
>
> > UPDATE tableB
> > UPDATE tableA
>
> > Since they will run in individual transactions tableA gets locked by the
> > 1st script and tableB by the 2nd; as execution flow proceeds to the next
> > update in each script, those tables would be locked in separate
> > transactions.
>
> I think you are working with a completely wrong mental model of what
> this change did. It will not affect a pipeline that doesn't contain
> any VACUUM, ANALYZE, or similar maintenance commands.
>
> regards, tom lane
>

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