Re: Beta1 announcement: alpha1 draft

From: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Beta1 announcement: alpha1 draft
Date: 2016-05-10 00:00:54
Message-ID: CAKFQuwauWW32uXEEG0x_om3rsKukVujsz6si--QFPA3Tx7L9ug@mail.gmail.com
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TOn Mon, May 9, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:

> On 05/09/2016 04:42 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> > On 05/09/2016 04:32 PM, Josh berkus wrote:
> >> On 05/09/2016 04:31 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote:
> >>> On 05/09/2016 04:19 PM, Josh berkus wrote:
> >
> >>> On further inspection:
> >>>
> >>> * postgres_fdw pushes down sorts, joins, UPDATEs and DELETEs, enhancing
> >>> federated database support
> >>>
> >>> How about:
> >>>
> >>> * postgres_fdw now optimized for sorts, joins, UPDATEs and DELETEs,
> >>> enhancing federated database support
> >>>
> >>> "pushes down" means pretty much nothing to the layman.
> >>
> >> Hmmm. Not sure I agree. "optimizes" is also pretty vague. Optimizes
> >> how?
> >
> > I agree that optimizes is vague but it at least insinuates a positive or
> > performance based outcome. "Pushes down" means what?
>
> Point, although we use the phrase a lot elsewhere. Really "remote
> execution" might be better, but we don't really use those words anywhere
> else ...
>

​postgres_fdw now executes sorts, joins, updates, and deletes on the remote
server.

Though sort/join seems to be a different class than update/delete; possibly
warranting two sentences.

Enhanced federated database support via postgres_fdw: you can now execute
updates and deletes on the remote server. Furthermore, sorts and joins are
now executed remotely, reducing data transfer and improving speed.

​Though, for me, "push down" is lot less cumbersome than "enhancing
federated database support"

​The later sounds more geek than the former.

I could be a bit off as I haven't really delved into the feature. But I
suspect any inaccuracy would be a fair trade for simplicity in this
non-technical document.

David J.

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