Re: Fwd: Identify system databases

From: "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dominique Devienne <ddevienne(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at>, Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>, Igor Korot <ikorot01(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Identify system databases
Date: 2025-04-16 15:25:12
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 8:07 AM Dominique Devienne <ddevienne(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 4:39 PM Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Laurenz Albe <laurenz(dot)albe(at)cybertec(dot)at> writes:
> > > On Wed, 2025-04-16 at 10:09 +0200, Dominique Devienne wrote:
>
> So in a way, you guys are saying one should never REVOKE CONNECT ON
> DATABASE FROM PUBLIC?
>
> All my DBs are not PUBLIC-accessible.
> And inside my DBs, I try to revoke everything from PUBLIC
> (USAGE ON TYPES, EXECUTE ON ROUTINES).
> Nor do I use the public schema.
> And I never use the "built-in" postgres database.
> Basically I want all GRANTs to be explicit.
>
> Given the above, I'd want to not provide access to the postgres DB too.
>

> Yet have a way to discover which DBs I can connect to, from the "cluster
> only".
>

Kinda surprised you don't consider this a feature...give all of your
databases UUID names and ensure that non-superusers must be told the
databases they are allowed to connect to.

But feel free to work out a design and add it to the ToDo list for the v4
protocol. The use case seems reasonable and doable (on the basis of the
replication protocol works).

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Todo#Wire_Protocol_Changes_.2F_v4_Protocol

David J.

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