From: | "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Cc: | Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, "tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <tanghy(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Nancarrow <gregn4422(at)gmail(dot)com>, "houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, "osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com" <osumi(dot)takamichi(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Alexey Lesovsky <lesovsky(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Skipping logical replication transactions on subscriber side |
Date: | 2022-01-25 14:35:32 |
Message-ID: | CAKFQuwY=7v9xyb4A4m6dBnTJyRXvOFnpqnTgauL1US=WO_Ukdg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 5:52 AM Peter Eisentraut <
peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
> On 25.01.22 06:18, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > I think to avoid this we can send a message to clear this (at least to
> > clear XID in the view) after skipping the xact but there is no
> > guarantee that it will be received by the stats collector.
> > Additionally, the worker can periodically (say after every N (100,
> > 500, etc) successful transaction) send a clear message after
> > successful apply. This will ensure that eventually the error entry
> > will be cleared.
>
> Well, I think we need *some* solution for now. We can't leave a footgun
> where you say, "skip transaction 700", somehow transaction 700 doesn't
> happen, the whole thing gets forgotten, but then 3 months later, the
> next transaction 700 mysteriously gets dropped.
>
This is indeed part of why I feel that the xid being skipped should be
validated. As the feature is presented the user is supposed to read the
xid from the system (the new stat view or the error log) and supply it and
then the worker, when it goes to skip, should find that the very first
transaction xid it encounters is the one it is being told to skip. It
skips that transaction, clears the skipxid, and puts the system back into
normal operating mode. If that first transaction xid isn't the one being
specified to skip the worker should error with "skipping transaction
failed, xid 123 expected but 456 found".
This whole lack of a guarantee of the availability and accuracy regarding
the data that this process should be reliant upon needs to be engineered
away.
David J.
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