Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby

From: shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>
Cc: Bertrand Drouvot <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ajin Cherian <itsajin(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Nisha Moond <nisha(dot)moond412(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)alvh(dot)no-ip(dot)org>, shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Synchronizing slots from primary to standby
Date: 2024-04-30 03:54:26
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 5:28 PM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
<houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2024 5:11 PM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 11:38 AM shveta malik <shveta(dot)malik(at)gmail(dot)com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:57 AM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
> > > <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, March 15, 2024 10:45 PM Bertrand Drouvot
> > <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 02:22:44AM +0000, Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu) wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since the standby_slot_names patch has been committed, I am
> > > > > > attaching the last doc patch for review.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > 1 ===
> > > > >
> > > > > + continue subscribing to publications now on the new primary
> > > > > + server
> > > > > without
> > > > > + any data loss.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think "without any data loss" should be re-worded in this
> > > > > context. Data loss in the sense "data committed on the primary and
> > > > > not visible on the subscriber in case of failover" can still occurs (in case
> > synchronous replication is not used).
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 ===
> > > > >
> > > > > + If the result (<literal>failover_ready</literal>) of both above steps is
> > > > > + true, existing subscriptions will be able to continue without data
> > loss.
> > > > > + </para>
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't think that's true if synchronous replication is not used.
> > > > > Say,
> > > > >
> > > > > - synchronous replication is not used
> > > > > - primary is not able to reach the standby anymore and
> > > > > standby_slot_names is set
> > > > > - new data is inserted into the primary
> > > > > - then not replicated to subscriber (due to standby_slot_names)
> > > > >
> > > > > Then I think the both above steps will return true but data would
> > > > > be lost in case of failover.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the comments, attach the new version patch which reworded
> > > > the above places.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the patch.
> > >
> > > Few comments:
> > >
> > > 1) Tested the steps, one of the queries still refers to
> > > 'conflict_reason'. I think it should refer 'conflicting'.
>
> Thanks for catching this. Fixed.
>
> > >
> > > 2) Will it be good to mention that in case of planned promotion, it is
> > > recommended to run pg_sync_replication_slots() as last sync attempt
> > > before we run failvoer-ready validation steps? This can be mentioned
> > > in high-availaibility.sgml of current patch
> >
> > I recall now that with the latest fix, we cannot run
> > pg_sync_replication_slots() unless we disable the slot-sync worker.
> > Considering that, I think it will be too many steps just to run the SQL function at
> > the end without much value added. Thus we can skip this point, we can rely on
> > slot sync worker completely.
>
> Agreed. I didn't change this.
>
> Here is the V3 doc patch.

Thanks for the patch.

It will be good if 1a can produce quoted slot-names list as output,
which can be used directly in step 1b's query; otherwise, it is little
inconvenient to give input to 1b if the number of slots are huge. User
needs to manually quote each slot-name.

Other than this, the patch looks good to me.

thanks
Shveta

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