From: | Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | David Fetter <david(at)fetter(dot)org>, Claudio Freire <klaussfreire(at)gmail(dot)com>, Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Andreas Karlsson <andreas(at)proxel(dot)se>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew(dot)dunstan(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Subject: | Re: CTE inlining |
Date: | 2017-05-03 21:24:05 |
Message-ID: | CAHyXU0xcbctKzRoenpJL8fj01GDCy0KzmFCSus3qHAjOyB-bAA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Alvaro Herrera
<alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> David Fetter wrote:
>
>> When we add a "temporary" GUC, we're taking on a gigantic burden.
>> Either we support it forever somehow, or we put it on a deprecation
>> schedule immediately and expect to be answering questions about it for
>> years after it's been removed.
>>
>> -1 for the GUC.
>
> Absolutely.
>
> So ISTM we have three choices:
>
> 1) we switch unmarked CTEs as inlineable by default in pg11. What seems
> likely to happen for a user that upgrades to pg11 is that 5 out of 10
> CTE-using queries are going to become faster than with pg10, and they
> are going to be happy; 4 out of five are going to see no difference, but
> they didn't have to do anything about it; and the remaining query is
> going to become slower, either indistinguishably so (in which case they
> don't care and they remain happy because of the other improvements) or
> notably so, in which case they can easily figure where to add the
> MATERIALIZED option and regain the original performance.
+1 for option 1. This change will be welcome for a large number of
queries, but forced materialization is a real need and I use it often.
This comes off as a very reasonable compromise in my opinion unless it
requires major coding gymnastics to implement.
merlin
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