Re: RE: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way imaginable...

Guys,

There are folks here, who get your posts and since quite some time want to
get out of this list.

Do you think they enjoy your conversation?

I don't, by the way.

Thank you & best regards.

Am 23.06.2017 20:58 schrieb "Melvin Davidson" <melvin6925(at)yahoo(dot)com>:

> *Russell,*
> *> I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports features in the new versions
> of Postgres that *
> *> version 3 simply doesn't.*
>
>
> *Just curious. What features does PgAdmin 4 have that PgAdmin III does
> not?*
> *I did a survey involving a future feature that is planned, but I have not
> yet *
>
> *seen that as of 4 v1.5 .*
>
> Melvin Davidson 🎸
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> On Friday, June 23, 2017, 2:47:51 PM EDT, Paragon Corporation <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>
> wrote:
>
>
> Russell,
>
>
>
> I fail to see a “valid” criticism in the original email. If there anything
> constructive at all, I would not have deemed him/her a fool.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Leo
>
>
>
> *From:* Russell Mercer [mailto:rmercer(at)getspatial(dot)com]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 2:04 PM
> *To:* Paragon Corporation <lr(at)pcorp(dot)us>
> *Cc:* 'Pgadmin Support' <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> *Subject:* Re: Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way
> imaginable...
>
>
>
> It is my hope that this response does not indicate what I think it might,
> which is that the valid criticisms he has made in his emails are being lost
> in the immaturity with which he has presented them.
>
> The points are valid that PG Admin 4 is extremely slow on Windows
> machines. It is also true that there is a feature gap between this new
> version of the software, and PG Admin 3. It is extremely surprising that
> this gap exists given the stated $1,000,000+ expenditure for development of
> the new version. Where PG Admin 3 was able to spread across multiple
> windows on multiple monitors, PG Admin 4 is constrained to essentially a
> browser window.
>
> With the issues it has, I still use PG Admin 4 because it supports
> features in the new versions of Postgres that version 3 simply doesn't. I
> know the developers have been active on the mailing list and are attempting
> to suss out some of the thornier performance issues on Windows. For these
> reasons, I have made my concerns known a couple of times, but will not
> continue to harp on them.
>
> I realize that in the end, I get what I pay for. If you choose to cast
> people as fools who have criticisms of your software, that is your choice.
> I am a user of the database, and the admin software. I am not a software
> developer, so my avenues for action to solve the problem are limited. I am
> left with the option to air my concerns, as are many other people.
> Hopefully we are not written off simply because this is all we do, however
> poorly we may choose to present them.
>
> The story of the court jesters of old comes to mind. They were written
> off as fools by the majority of people, however they used that as cover to
> deliver what was in many cases, extremely pointed social commentary. So,
> while the original poster may be considered a fool, it does not make him
> wrong.
>
> Thank you for the time and effort put forth on both PostgreSQL and
> PGAdmin. They are great tools!
>
> Russell
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2017-06-23 07:07, Paragon Corporation wrote:
>
> "Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain. And most fools do."
>
>
>
> --- Benjamin Franklin
>
>
>
> *From:* grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com [mailto:grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com
> <grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com>]
> *Sent:* Friday, June 23, 2017 9:16 AM
> *To:* Pgadmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>
> *Subject:* Extreme incompetence by pgAdmin people in every way
> imaginable...
>
>
>
> This isn't even funny. It's just sad and bizarre. Everything about this
> project screams of incompetence, from the impossibly slow and buggy pgAdmin
> 4 -- literally UNUSABLE after over a million dollars spent developing it!
> -- to this mailing list itself.
>
> I'm going to have to assume that nobody gives a shit about anything
> related to pgAdmin. I'm sure as hell never going to "upgrade" from pgAdmin
> III, which itself is incredibly slow and buggy as well, but lightyears
> ahead of v4.
>
> Then again, nobody will read this, just like my previous posts. You are
> immune to the truth. I'm going to force myself to use one of the weird
> "alternatives" and forget about pgAdmin forever. Bye.
>
> (If I manage to unsubscribe to this inferno.)
>
>