From: | Dilshod Urazov <urazofficial(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Proposal: Adjacent B-Tree index |
Date: | 2024-02-20 18:09:39 |
Message-ID: | CAHc0=pi5iB-9zygufTqfvn=dR18cV_afvaLzSghJ6xATatwr-g@mail.gmail.com |
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> I'm not sure why are two indexes not sufficient here?
Did I write that they are not sufficient? The whole point is that in
relational DBMSs which are widely used
to store graphs we can optimize storage in such cases. Also we can optimize
traversals e.g. if we want to
get all nodes that are adjacent to a given node with id = X in an oriented
graph
SELECT id, label
FROM Nodes
JOIN Edges ON Nodes.id = Edges.target
WHERE Edges.source = X;
only 1 index lookup is needed.
> The entry could've been removed because (e.g.)
> test's b column was updated thus inserting a new index entry for the
> new HOT-chain's TID.
If test'b column was updated and HOT optimization took place no new index
entry is created. Index tuple
pointing to old heap tuple is valid since now it is pointing to HOT-chain.
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Dilshod Urazov
пн, 19 февр. 2024 г. в 22:32, Matthias van de Meent <
boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com>:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 18:48, Dilshod Urazov <urazofficial(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >
> > - Motivation
> >
> > A regular B-tree index provides efficient mapping of key values to
> tuples within a table. However, if you have two tables connected in some
> way, a regular B-tree index may not be efficient enough. In this case, you
> would need to create an index for each table. The purpose will become
> clearer if we consider a simple example which is the main use-case as I see
> it.
>
> I'm not sure why are two indexes not sufficient here? PostgreSQL can
> already do merge joins, which would have the same effect of hitting
> the same location in the index at the same time between all tables,
> without the additional overhead of having to scan two table's worth of
> indexes in VACUUM.
>
> > During the vacuum of A an index tuple pointing to a dead tuple in A
> should be cleaned as well as all index tuples for the same key.
>
> This is definitely not correct. If I have this schema
>
> table test (id int primary key, b text unique)
> table test_ref(test_id int references test(id))
>
> and if an index would contain entries for both test and test_ref, it
> can't just remove all test_ref entries because an index entry with the
> same id was removed: The entry could've been removed because (e.g.)
> test's b column was updated thus inserting a new index entry for the
> new HOT-chain's TID.
>
> > would suffice for this new semantics.
>
> With the provided explanation I don't think this is a great idea.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Matthias van de Meent.
>
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