Re: Can we get a PostgreSQL speaker into this?

From: Jonathan Bartlett <jonathan(at)bartlettpublishing(dot)com>
To: julyanto(at)equnix(dot)co(dot)id
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, Umair Shahid <umair(dot)shahid(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Advocacy Group <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Ed Boyajian <Ed(dot)Boyajian(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "Mlodgenski, Jim" <jimm(at)openscg(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Can we get a PostgreSQL speaker into this?
Date: 2016-06-14 14:07:57
Message-ID: CAHRTq6SjtVbgAVuhrKcJzdqqfWekrZ38CsAMBC6w4r63wcuGYw@mail.gmail.com
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Not to dive too far out into the weeds, but technically, it is mercantilism
you are fighting. Mercantilism is often confused with capitalism, but
technically they are arch-enemies. Capitalism was developed as a
refutation of mercantilism. In Britain, the crown was giving
state-sanctioned monopolies on various kinds of businesses. This was
mercantilism. Adam Smith showed that freedom brought social wealth, and
that state-sanctioned monopolies and oligopolies squelched it. Many people
conflate mercantilism and capitalism because they both deal with
"business". However, business entities usually favor mercantilism, not
capitalism, because under mercantilism they can make money simply because
the state says so. In the modern era, it is usually not a direct monopoly
that is granted, but rather influence (whether setting standards, winning
large government contracts, etc.), and even, to some extent, patents and
copyrights (though there is some debate on whether the latter is a form of
intrinsic property right or a government-granted monopoly).

Jon

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:40 PM, julyanto SUTANDANG <julyanto(at)equnix(dot)co(dot)id>
wrote:

> Dear Josh,
>
> Thanks for correction, yes i don't really mean "capitalism as whole". All
> of us here agree that propietary softwares has done such great business
> more than expected, and creating new "monopoly" which is really hard to
> compete without Open Source.
> Open Source creates opportunity to all of us to have alternative
> solutions.
> This is what i refer to "fight capitalism"
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/13/2016 08:59 AM, julyanto SUTANDANG wrote:
>> > It is really great!
>> > That would be a world class summit for Enterprise Level Database
>> Softwares.
>> > I would like to say thanks to all of you in here and there (in the
>> > event) for your contribution and support to
>> > make PostgreSQL happened as the great solution for everyone in the world
>> > and creates opportunity for
>> > us to fight capitalism, monopoly and vendor lock-in. Especially in Asian
>> > Countries!
>>
>> I'm pretty sure you didn't mean "to fight capitalism", given where you
>> work.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Josh Berkus
>> Red Hat OSAS
>> (any opinions are my own)
>>
>
>
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