From: | Don Seiler <don(at)seiler(dot)us> |
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To: | Vik Fearing <vik(dot)fearing(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Melvin Davidson <melvin6925(at)gmail(dot)com>, "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Igal (at) Lucee(dot)org" <igal(at)lucee(dot)org>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Finally upgrading to 9.6! |
Date: | 2017-10-18 21:34:46 |
Message-ID: | CAHJZqBDkiq0YrcNexWboGiVP8VM0TqtAojLCam-=OK024Jrmvw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Vik Fearing <vik(dot)fearing(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
wrote:
> On 10/18/2017 08:17 PM, Don Seiler wrote:
>
> > I disagree with this. It isn't my company's business to test the
> > Postgres software in development, as much as it would be needed and
> > appreciated by the community.
>
> Yeah, let others do it for you! Great attitude.
>
It's a realistic, practical attitude. I'm sorry that not every company
wants to offer the resources to contribute back to the community as much as
you want. But it's foolish to expect a company to perform their development
lifecycle against betas and RCs. They have their own products to worry
about. A gallant few may let their DBAs do some sandbox testing to
contribute time back to the community, but you can't expect them to.
> > I'm planning a mass upgrade to 9.6 soon as well and the question was
> raised
> > as to whether or not to go right to 10.0, and I quickly put that down.
>
> Right, because when you say "official release versus a beta or release
> candidate", you don't actually mean it.
I don't even know what you mean here. You're responding like I ran over
your dog and it's quite ridiculous.
Plain and simple, I wouldn't expect any DBA responsible for production
databases to run on a new major release, regardless of platform/vendor.
It's asking for a headache and maybe a few noisy pager nights. It doesn't
matter how much faith I have in the Postgres contributors/developers, I
have a responsibility to my employer to keep their database platforms up
and running. That is first and foremost. I'm sure if I found myself with
time to spare, I'll test upgrading a prod clone to 10 and asking some devs
to run it through its paces, but spare time is a luxury that you can't just
expect people to have.
--
Don Seiler
www.seiler.us
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