Re: So... you're all just going to ignore anyone who asks about the HUGE issues with pgAdmin 4?

Like is this a charade? Am I hallucinating? Are computer professionals
still using MS Windows?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Patrick Headley <pheadley(at)linxco-inc(dot)com>
wrote:

> It doesn't sound like anyone is ignoring the problem but some issues are
> harder to fix than others. If pgAdmin4 isn't working for you, use something
> else. No one is saying you have to use pgAdmin4.
>
> While you are accusing many people of having something wrong in their
> heads I have observed that you are the only one that is flipping out over
> the issue. As I stated in a prior message, I was dissatisfied with pgAdmin4
> on Windows so I got pgAdmin3 for Windows and PostgreSQL 9.6 from another
> vendor that is maintaining pgAdmin3. No need to panic. Still getting my
> work done. When pgAdmin4 works well (and it's getting there and it's
> definitely not the worst performing software that I use on a daily basis),
> I'll make the switch.
>
> Another way of looking at the situation is that someone has to test the
> software. It cannot be up to David alone. There are many people doing this
> and not flipping out about the issues but simply presenting them to David
> so they can be fixed. It's a process. No software is perfect on every
> machine and platform before being released. There is no way for David to
> test every possible scenario and he has explained that already. It takes a
> community of cooperation to make it right.
>
> I hope you can find a solution that works for you while David works out
> the bugs in pgAdmin4.
>
> *Patrick Headley*
> Linx Consulting, Inc.
> pheadley(at)linxco-inc(dot)com
> (303) 916-5522
> www.linxco-inc.com
> On 06/15/2017 11:20 AM, David G. Johnston wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:05 AM, <grekloedlc(at)tutanota(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> It doesn't seem possible to get through to you. Whatever you spent those
>> one million dollars on, it sure as hell wasn't related to pgAdmin in any
>> way. More like very heavy drugs, if you think this is even acceptable for
>> pre-pre-pre-alpha software. It's literally *unusable*. You get it?
>> UNUSABLE. Anyone who claims otherwise must have something wrong in their
>> head.
>>
>> Are you just going to keep on this charade or actually fix the problem?
>> Do I have to switch from PostgreSQL to something else just because the
>> admin tool is broken beyond the point of being usable to anyone? This is
>> insanity.
>>
>
> ​There isn't a monopoly on GUI admin software for PostgresSQL. While it
> has its quirks I find PostgreSQL Maestro to be quite functional for my
> needs - at least the ones I don't solve by writing scripts and executing
> them via psql. The server is going to function the same no matter which
> external administration/client tools you choose to use.
>
> I rarely used pgAdmin3, I found it to be "too graphical" if that makes
> sense, and haven't tried pgAdmin4. My scanning of this mailing list leads
> me to believe what you are saying is reasonably accurate even if your tone
> is not: there are a number of active discussions on this very topic on this
> mailing list right now.
>
> David J.
>
>
>

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