Re: Suggestions to overcome 'multixact "members" limit exceeded' in temporary tables

I've been able to observe that the performance degradation with TRUNCATE
appears to happen when other ancillary processes are running that are also
heavy users of temporary tables. If I used an exclusive tablespace, would
that improve things?

Cheers

Jim

On Wed, 31 Jul 2024 at 15:16, Jim Vanns <jvanns(at)ilm(dot)com> wrote:

> I've reached the limit of my understanding and attempts at correcting my
> code/use of temporary tables in the face of multixact members and have come
> to ask for your help! Here's a brief description of my software;
>
> Pool of N connection sessions, persistent for the duration of the program
> lifetime.
> Upon each session initialisation, a set of CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE ON
> COMMIT DELETE ROWS statements are made for bulk ingest.
> Each session is acquired by a thread for use when ingesting data and
> therefore each temporary table remains until the session is terminated
> The thread performs a COPY <temp table> FROM STDIN in binary format
> Then an INSERT INTO <main table> SELECT FROM <temp table> WHERE...
>
> This has been working great for a while and with excellent throughput.
> However, upon scaling up I eventually hit this error;
>
> ERROR: multixact "members" limit exceeded
> DETAIL: This command would create a multixact with 2 members, but the
> remaining space is only enough for 0 members.
> HINT: Execute a database-wide VACUUM in database with OID 16467 with
> reduced vacuum_multixact_freeze_min_age and
> vacuum_multixact_freeze_table_age settings.
>
> And it took me quite a while to identify that it appears to be coming from
> the temporary table (the other 'main' tables were being autovacuumed OK) -
> which makes sense because they have a long lifetime, aren't auto vacuumed
> and shared by transactions (in turn).
>
> I first attempted to overcome this by introducing an initial step of
> always creating the temporary table before the copy (and using on commit
> drop) but this lead to a terrible performance degradation.
> Next, I reverted the above and instead I introduced a VACUUM step every
> 1000000 (configurable) ingest operations
> Finally, I introduced a TRUNCATE step in addition to the occasional VACUUM
> since the TRUNCATE allowed the COPY option of FREEZE.
>
> The new overhead appears minimal until after several hours and again I've
> hit a performance degradation seemingly dominated by the TRUNCATE.
>
> My questions are;
>
> 1) Is the VACUUM necessary if I use TRUNCATE + COPY FREEZE (on the
> temporary table)?
> 2) Is there really any benefit to using FREEZE here or is it best to just
> VACUUM the temporary tables occasionally?
> 3) Is there a better way of managing all this!? Perhaps re-CREATING the TT
> every day or something?
>
> I understand that I can create a Linux tmpfs partition for a tablespace
> for the temporary tables and that may speed up the TRUNCATE but that seems
> like a hack and I'd rather not do it at all if it's avoidable.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Jim
>
> PS. PG version in use is 15.4 if that matters here
>
> --
> Jim Vanns
> Principal Production Engineer
> Industrial Light & Magic, London
>

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Jim Vanns
Principal Production Engineer
Industrial Light & Magic, London