From: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
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To: | Masahiko Sawada <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: New IndexAM API controlling index vacuum strategies |
Date: | 2021-02-02 03:17:04 |
Message-ID: | CAH2-WzmkebqPd4MVGuPTOS9bMFvp9MDs5cRTCOsv1rQJ3jCbXw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 5:26 PM Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> It'll be essential to have good instrumentation as we do more
> benchmarking. We're probably going to have to make subjective
> assessments of benchmark results, based on multiple factors. That will
> probably be the only practical way to assess how much better (or
> worse) the patch is compared to master. This patch is more about
> efficiency and predictability than performance per se. Which is good,
> because that's where most of the real world problems actually are.
I've been thinking about how to get this patch committed for
PostgreSQL 14. This will probably require cutting scope, so that the
initial commit is not so ambitious. I think that "incremental VACUUM"
could easily take up a lot of my time for Postgres 15, and maybe even
Postgres 16.
I'm starting to think that the right short term goal should not
directly involve bottom-up index deletion. We should instead return to
the idea of "unifying" the vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor feature
with the INDEX_CLEANUP feature, which is kind of where this whole idea
started out at. This short term goal is much more than mere
refactoring. It is still a whole new user-visible feature. The patch
would teach VACUUM to skip doing any real index work within both
ambulkdelete() and amvacuumcleanup() in many important cases.
Here is a more detailed explanation:
Today we can skip all significant work in ambulkdelete() and
amvacuumcleanup() when there are zero dead tuples in the table. But
why is the threshold *precisely* zero? If we could treat cases that
have "practically zero" dead tuples in the same way (or almost the
same way) as cases with *exactly* zero dead tuple, that's still a big
improvement. And it still sets an important precedent that is crucial
for the wider "incremental VACUUM" project: the criteria for
triggering index vacuuming becomes truly "fuzzy" for the first time.
It is "fuzzy" in the sense that index vacuuming might not happen
during VACUUM at all now, even when the user didn't explicitly use
VACUUUM's INDEX_CLEANUP option, and even when more than *precisely*
zero dead index tuples are involved (though not *much* more than zero,
can't be too aggressive). That really is a big change.
A recap on vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor, just to avoid confusion:
The reader should note that this is very different to Masahiko's
vacuum_cleanup_index_scale_factor project, which skips *cleanup* in
VACUUM (not bulk delete), a question which only comes up when there
are definitely zero dead index tuples. The unifying work I'm talking
about now implies that we completely avoid scanning indexes during
vacuum, even when they are known to have at least a few dead index
tuples, and even when VACUUM's INDEX_CLEANUP emergency option is not
in use. Which, as I just said, is a big change.
Thoughts on triggering criteria for new "unified" design, ~99.9%
append-only tables:
Actually, in *one* sense the difference between "precisely zero" and
"practically zero" here *is* small. But it's still probably going to
result in skipping reading indexes during VACUUM in many important
cases. Like when you must VACUUM a table that is ~99.9% append-only.
In the real world things are rarely in exact discrete categories, even
when we imagine that they are. It's too easy to be wrong about one
tiny detail -- like one tiny UPDATE from 4 weeks ago, perhaps. Having
a tiny amount of "forgiveness" here is actually a *huge* improvement
on having precisely zero forgiveness. Small and big.
This should help cases that get big surprising spikes due to
anti-wraparound vacuums that must vacuum indexes for the first time in
ages -- indexes may be vacuumed despite only having a tiny absolute
number of dead tuples. I don't think that it's necessary to treat
anti-wraparound vacuums as special at all (not in Postgres 14 and
probably not ever), because simply considering cases where the table
has "practically zero" dead tuples alone should be enough. Vacuuming a
10GB index to delete only 10 tuples simply makes no sense. It doesn't
necessarily matter how we end up there, it just shouldn't happen.
The ~99.9% append-only table case is likely to be important and common
in the real world. We should start there for Postgres 14 because it's
easier, that's all. It's not fundamentally different to what happens
in workloads involving lots of bottom-up deletion -- it's just
simpler, and easier to reason about. Bottom-up deletion is an
important piece of the big puzzle here, but some variant of
"incremental VACUUM" really would still make sense in a world where
bottom-up index deletion does not exist. (In fact, I started thinking
about "incremental VACUUM" before bottom-up index deletion, and didn't
make any connection between them until work on bottom-up deletion had
already progressed significantly.)
Here is how the triggering criteria could work: maybe skipping
accessing all indexes during VACUUM happens when less than 1% or
10,000 of the items from the table are to be removed by VACUUM --
whichever is greater. Of course this is just the first thing I thought
of. It's a starting point for further discussion.
My concerns won't be a surprise to you, Masahiko, but I'll list them
for the record. The bottom-up index deletion related complexity that I
want to avoid dealing with for Postgres 14 is in the following areas
(areas that Masahiko's patch dealt with):
* No need to teach indexes to do the amvacuumstrategy() stuff in
Postgres 14 -- so no need to worry about the exact criteria used
within AMs like nbtree to determine whether or not index vacuuming
seems appropriate from the "selfish" perspective of one particular
index.
I'm concerned that factors like bulk DELETEs, that may complicate
things for the amvacuumstrategy() routine -- doing something
relatively simple based on the recent growth of the index might have
downsides. Balancing competing considerations is hard.
* No need to change MaxHeapTuplesPerPage for now, since that only
really makes sense in cases that heavily involve bottom-up deletion,
where we care about the *concentration* of LP_DEAD line pointers in
heap pages (and not just the absolute number in the entire table),
which is qualitative, not quantitative (somewhat like bottom-up
deletion).
The change to MaxHeapTuplesPerPage that Masahiko has proposed does
make sense -- there are good reasons to increase it. Of course there
are also good reasons to not do so. I'm concerned that we won't have
time to think through all the possible consequences.
* Since "practically zero" dead tuples from a table still isn't very
many, the risk of "leaking" many deleted pages due to a known issue
with INDEX_CLEANUP in nbtree [1] is much less significant. (FWIW I
doubt that skipping index vacuuming is the only way that we can fail
to recycle deleted pages anyway -- the FSM is not crash safe, of
course, plus I think that _bt_page_recyclable() might be broken in
other ways.)
In short: we can cut scope and de-risk the patch for Postgres 14 by
following this plan, while still avoiding unnecessary index vacuuming
within VACUUM in certain important cases. The high-level goal for this
patch has always been to recognize that index vacuuming is basically
wasted effort in certain cases. Cutting scope here merely means
addressing the relatively easy cases first, where simple triggering
logic will clearly be effective. I still strongly believe in
"incremental VACUUM".
What do you think of cutting scope like this for Postgres 14,
Masahiko? Sorry to change my mind, but I had to see the prototype to
come to this decision.
[1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CA+TgmoYD7Xpr1DWEWWXxiw4-WC1NBJf3Rb9D2QGpVYH9ejz9fA@mail.gmail.com
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Peter Geoghegan
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