From: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> |
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To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: should vacuum's first heap pass be read-only? |
Date: | 2022-04-05 19:21:39 |
Message-ID: | CAH2-WzmU2nSDJrT98MXEKH-ExSHVDxS6GOKiDKhGb2gxxYQM2g@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 5:44 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> The whole idea of decoupling table and index vacuum
> supposes that there are situations in which it's worth performing the
> first heap pass where we gather the dead line pointers but where it's
> not necessary to follow that up as quickly as possible with a second
> heap pass to mark dead line pointers unused. I think Peter and I are
> in agreement that there are situations in which some indexes need to
> be vacuumed much more often than others -- but that doesn't matter if
> the heap needs to be vacuumed more frequently than anything else,
> because you can't do that without first vacuuming all the indexes.
It's not just an enabler of more frequent index vacuuming (for those
indexes that need it the most), though. It's also an enabler of more
frequent lazy_scan_prune processing (in particular setting hint bits
and freezing), which is probably even more likely to benefit from the
decoupling you'd be enabling. I can imagine this having great value in
a world where autovacuum scheduling eagerly keeps up with inserts into
an append-mostly table, largely avoiding repeating dirtying within
lazy_scan_prune, with dynamic feedback. You just need to put off the
work of index/heap vacuuming to be able to do that kind of thing.
Postgres 14 split the WAL record previously shared by both pruning and
vacuuming (called XLOG_HEAP2_CLEAN) into two separate WAL records
(called XLOG_HEAP2_PRUNE and XLOG_HEAP2_VACUUM). That made it easier
to spot the fact that we usually have far fewer of the latter WAL
records during VACUUM by using pg_waldump. Might be worth doing your
own experiments on this.
Other instrumentation changes in 14 also helped here. In particular
the "%u pages from table (%.2f%% of total) had %lld dead item
identifiers removed" line that was added to autovacuum's log output
made it easy to spot how little heap vacuuming might really be needed.
With some tables it is roughly the opposite way around (as much or
even more heap vacuuming than pruning/freezing) -- you'll tend to see
that in tables where opportunistic pruning leaves behind a lot of
LP_DEAD stubs that only VACUUM can make LP_UNUSED.
But, these same LP_DEAD-heavy tables *also* have a very decent
chance of benefiting from a better index vacuuming strategy, something
*also* enabled by the conveyor belt design. So overall, in either scenario,
VACUUM concentrates on problems that are particular to a given table
and workload, without being hindered by implementation-level
restrictions.
--
Peter Geoghegan
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