Re: request link to maintained pgAdmin 3 fork on main project page

From: "Mlodgenski, Jim" <jimm(at)openscg(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>, "pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: request link to maintained pgAdmin 3 fork on main project page
Date: 2017-06-29 13:11:32
Message-ID: CAGj3+VJq2vvvA9F5OPpdFgbZrV46RMaVrJk_dS3q4z3ZUC9sLg@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Page or whom it concerns,
>>
>> Reflecting on feedback given to this list on a number of occasions
>> including today about how pgAdmin 3 works better for some people than
>> pgAdmin 4 does, and that pgAdmin 3 is officially unsupported, I
>> recommend/request the following...
>>
>> On the page https://www.pgadmin.org/download/ where it says "WARNING:
>> pgAdmin 3 is no longer supported. It is recommended that you download
>> pgAdmin 4 instead.", I recommend editing that to append "by us" or
>> something similar, and then add a sentence and link saying that a third
>> party (or several if applicable) has taken it on themselves to provide
>> long-term support for pgAdmin 3, BigSQL at least.
>>
>> So for people whom pgAdmin 4 isn't meeting their needs as well as pgAdmin
>> 3, make it more easily known that BigSQL or others are explicitly offering
>> support for that. You would still say that you and the official pgAdmin
>> forum does not provide support for these forks, but that their maintainers
>> do. You can also explicitly say you don't endorse the forks, but are
>> making their existence known as a community service.
>>
>> I think having this pointer on this page and probably in other places
>> will help to cool some user concerns about having to choose between a rock
>> and a hard place, not supported versus less stable.
>>
>
> The problem is (and I had a brief discussion with the guys from OpenSCG
> about this yesterday), I don't think they are going to do any additional
> work. The effort required to support PG 10.0 is significant due to the
> changes needed following the addition of declarative partitioning.
>
> If that's not the case, please yelp Jim!
>

That's correct. Our plan with LTS is to make only minimal changes so that
pgAdmin 3 doesn't produce any nasty looking error messages on newer
versions of PostgreSQL. We don't plan on adding any functionality to
support new features in the core like partitioning.

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