Re: Dropping a temporary view?

From: Celia McInnis <celia(dot)mcinnis(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
Cc: Erik Wienhold <ewie(at)ewie(dot)name>, "pgsql-generallists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Dropping a temporary view?
Date: 2024-03-20 17:54:25
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Hi Adrian

The only behaviour changed for the debugging was to make the view
non-temporary, so that I could verify in psql that the content of the view
was what I wanted it to be. Debugging CGI software can be quite difficult,
so it's always good to have debugging hooks as a part of the software - I
know that I always have a DEBUG flag which, if on, prints out all kinds of
stuff into a debug file, and I just had my software set a different name
for DEBUG mode's non-temporary view than I was using for the temporary
view, as advised by Christophe Pettus.

No, unfortunately I didn't do an explain on the slow query - and it's too
late now since the views are removed. However, I never had a delay when
waiting for the view to be created in my web software, so, I'll just
proceed being more careful and hope that the delay seen was due to some big
mess I created.

Thanks,
Celia McInnis

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 1:01 PM Adrian Klaver <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
wrote:

> On 3/20/24 09:51, Celia McInnis wrote:
> > The view is being used in some web query software that multiple people
> > will be accessing and the contents of the view depend on what the person
> > is querying, so I think that temporary views or tables are a good idea.
> > I change to non-temporary views or tables (in a test version of the
> > software which is not web-crawl-able) when I'm trying to debug things,
> > and I guess I have to be careful to clean those up when I switch back to
> > the temporary tables/views.
>
> Why change behavior for the tests? Seems that sort of negates the value
> of the testing.
>
> Have you run EXPLAIN ANALYZE on the problem query?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:46 AM Adrian Klaver
> > <adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>> wrote:
> >
> > On 3/20/24 08:39, Celia McInnis wrote:
> > > Ok, thanks - so I guess that means that if there is both a
> > temporary and
> > > a non temporary view called "tempvie",
> > >
> > > DROP VIEW tempview;
> > >
> > > will remove the 1st tempview found, which with my path is the
> > temporary
> > > one. Is there some reason why it then took 7 minutes to select
> > from the
> > > non-temporary view tempview after I dropped the temporary view
> > tempview?
> > >
> > > I have sometimes had some very long query times when running query
> > > software, and maybe they are resulting from my switching between
> > > temporary and non-temporary views of the same name while
> > debugging. If
> > > so, is there something I should be doing to clean up any temporary
> > > messes I am creating?
> >
> > What is the purpose of the temp view over the the regular view
> process?
> >
> > How do they differ in data?
> >
> > Is all the above happening in one session?
> >
> > Have you run EXPLAIN ANALYZE on the select from the regular view?
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Celia McInnis
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Adrian Klaver
> > adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com <mailto:adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com>
> >
>
> --
> Adrian Klaver
> adrian(dot)klaver(at)aklaver(dot)com
>
>

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