From: | Ilya Kosmodemiansky <ilya(dot)kosmodemiansky(at)postgresql-consulting(dot)com> |
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To: | Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnakangas(at)vmware(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Dynamic LWLock tracing via pg_stat_lwlock (proof of concept) |
Date: | 2014-10-07 14:48:55 |
Message-ID: | CAG95seUYyLm7+Jkw=AoBbmrZ3DWuL9XeeEH2S5jH=v1bbXEmRg@mail.gmail.com |
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On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> On 2014-10-07 17:22:18 +0300, Heikki Linnakangas wrote:
>> FWIW, I liked Ilya's design. Before going to sleep, store the lock ID in
>> shared memory. When you wake up, clear it. That should be cheap enough to
>> have it always enabled. And it can easily be extended to other "waits", e.g.
>> when you're waiting for input from client.
>
> I think there's a few locks where that's interesting. But in my
> experience many slowdowns aren't caused by actual waits, but because of
> cacheline contention. And for that the number of acquisitions is much
> more relevant than the waiting. The primary example for this is probably
> the procarray lock.
I would say, that to see particular lwlockid 50 times in 100 samples
or to see it 50 times one after another or see it only 2 times,
provides good and representative information for DBA. At least better
than nothing.
>
>> I don't think counting the number of lock acquisition is that interesting.
>> It doesn't give you any information on how long the waits were, for
>> example.
>
> Sure, that's a separate thing that we should be able to answer.
The point is that a lot of short waits sometimes could be as worse as
one long wait. That is why it is important, but I thing propper
sampling provides good estimation for this.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Andres Freund
>
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