From: | Nicolas Grilly <nicolas(at)gardentechno(dot)com> |
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To: | dandl <david(at)andl(dot)org> |
Cc: | Jim Nasby <Jim(dot)Nasby(at)bluetreble(dot)com>, pgsql-general <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: What limits Postgres performance when the whole database lives in cache? |
Date: | 2016-09-08 08:15:17 |
Message-ID: | CAG3yVS6fn56pUYO+mFPYKrj2WjU=JHMsMy1f3qk+pbUdHamCpw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:35 AM, dandl <david(at)andl(dot)org> wrote:
> I understand that. What I'm trying to get a handle on is the magnitude of
> that cost and how it influences other parts of the product, specifically
> for Postgres. If the overhead for perfect durability were (say) 10%, few
> people would care about the cost. But Stonebraker puts the figure at 2500%!
> His presentation says that a pure relational in-memory store can beat a row
> store with disk fully cached in memory by 10x to 25x. [Ditto column stores
> beat row stores by 10x for complex queries in non-updatable data.]
>
VoltDB replication is synchronous in the same cluster/data center, and
asynchronous with a remote cluster/data center. As a consequence, if your
application needs to survive a data center power failure with zero data
loss, then you have to enable VoltDB's synchronous command logging (which
by the way is not available in the Community Edition — only in the
Enterprise Edition). When Stonebraker says VoltDB's throughput is 10~25x
greater, I'd guess this is with no command logging at all, and no periodic
snapshotting.
So my question is not to challenge the Postgres way. It's simply to ask
> whether there are any known figures that would directly support or refute
> his claims. Does Postgres really spend 96% of its time in thumb-twiddling
> once the entire database resides in memory?
>
Alas, I've been unable to find any relevant benchmark. I'm not motivated
enough to install a PostgreSQL and VoltDB and try it for myself :-)
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