Re: Opening pgAdmin 4 in a new browser window as an alternative user flow

From: Avin Kavish <avinkavish(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com>, Michel Feinstein <michelfeinstein(at)gmail(dot)com>, Ashesh Vashi <ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, "pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Opening pgAdmin 4 in a new browser window as an alternative user flow
Date: 2019-08-09 05:52:18
Message-ID: CAFpscOSvmTWvxY62bVgCGU_VzkYU49_o4VcAqh8oshgjXjYjxQ@mail.gmail.com
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@Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com> Electron launch option is going to
be optional as far as I'm aware

@Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> I think Khushboo linked a screenshot with
the settings

On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 11:14 AM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> I’m on my phone so can’t provide details, but some browsers offer command
> line options you can use in the config dialog to use a new window. In some,
> you may need to settle for an alternate profile.
>
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>
> On 9 Aug 2019, at 06:00, Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
>
> I see. I actually appreciate that pgAdmin is in a web browser, just that
> it was frustrating that it opens in a new tab instead of a window. But I
> guess it is impossible to make all users happy so I will rest my case for
> now.
>
> In any case, a brief look at the code[1] seems to suggest that it may not
> be trivial to implement my request.
>
> Thanks for the feedback anyway! 🙇🏻‍♂️
>
> --Luther
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> On Friday, August 9, 2019, 12:55:08 PM GMT+8, Avin Kavish <
> avinkavish(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
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> yep, exactly. The code for that is already in the repository. But there
> are a few considerations to be made such as launching and waiting for the
> python server to be up when the window is opened, ensuring the port number
> is fixed or matches the one used by the server and some sort of secret key
> exchange and context menus.
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:13 AM Michel Feinstein <
> michelfeinstein(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> I think this would be a lot easier, as you are just basically wrapping a
> browser with a fixed URL address.
>
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> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019, 01:39 Avin Kavish <avinkavish(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> The people who want it don't want a browser window, they want an
> independent standalone application that is not affected by what they might
> do with the browser.
>
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> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 10:08 AM Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com>
> wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing the plans for electron.
>
>
> In my feature suggestion for a new window, I am not referring to a new
> window using electron, but instead I meant a new window in the existing web
> browser.
>
>
> I am unfamiliar with the effort needed for electron integration. But I
> suspect that opening a new window in an existing web browser should be much
> more easily achievable.
>
>
> Wdyt?
>
>
> --Luther
>
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> On Friday, August 9, 2019, 12:31:56 PM GMT+8, Ashesh Vashi <
> ashesh(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:57 AM Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestion!. That is very useful, and would work for me as
> a personal custom configuration.
>
>
> However, I have read some complaints in the mailing list about how pgAdmin
> 4 opens a web page in a new tab, unlike pgAdmin3. I do wonder if changing
> the default behaviour to open in a new window would possibly address those
> complaints, make it more similar to pgAdmin 3
>
> We would love to have a separate window for pgAdmin 4, hence - we're
> already working on the POC (using electron), and it is a side line project,
> and getting delayed due to limited resources working on the pgAdmin 4.
>
>
> I would like to invite other python/electron developers to help us
> evolving the project in correct direction.
>
>
> -- Thanks, Ashesh
>
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>
> As an aside, is there a generic command that does the default browser in a
> new window? I am using firefox now and have switched to and fro from
> Chrome. It would be convenient if there is a single command that applies
> for both browsers!
>
>
>
> --Luther
>
>
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> On Friday, August 9, 2019, 12:17:57 PM GMT+8, Khushboo Vashi <
> khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
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> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 11:18 PM Luther Goh Lu Feng <elfgoh(at)yahoo(dot)com>
> wrote:
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> The current default behaviour of pgAdmin4 is to load a webpage in a new
> default browser tab, on the extreme right of all tabs. I find that less
> than ideal in the scenario where I have a large number of tabs in firefox,
> eg, 50, and I will be abruptly brought to that tab when pgAdmin 4 loads
>
>
> I would like to suggest an alternative user flow, where the pgAdmin loads
> in a new window. This could be an option, that could be toggled on and off
> with a checkbox. I would even go as far to suspect that this may be more
> welcomed as the default behaviour
>
>
> pgAdmin configuration window provides the way to set the browser options.
> You can set the appropriate command for your browser to always open pgAdmin
> in the new window.
>
>
> Right click on the pgAdmin 4 taskbar icon (elephant icon) > Select
> Configure > Set the command for the "Browser Command" option.
>
>
> I have attached the Chrome configuration for the new window for your
> reference.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Khushboo
>
>
> Wdyt?
>
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> --Luther
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