From: | Ashutosh Bapat <ashutosh(dot)bapat(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: <> join selectivity estimate question |
Date: | 2017-09-14 05:23:28 |
Message-ID: | CAFjFpRfN0Bm00s180Fe9m42KsWK5PF_4NBkJHfvt2Cysd=VXRw@mail.gmail.com |
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> writes:
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Ashutosh Bapat
>> <ashutosh(dot)bapat(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>> I added some "stable" tests to your patch taking inspiration from the
>>> test SQL file. I think those will be stable across machines and runs.
>>> Please let me know if those look good to you.
>
>> Hmm. But they show actual rows, not plan->plan_rows, and although the
>> former is interesting as a sanity check the latter is the thing under
>> test here. It seems like we don't have fine enough control of
>> EXPLAIN's output to show estimated rows but not cost. I suppose we
>> could try to capture EXPLAIN's output somehow (plpgsql dynamic
>> execution or spool output from psql?) and then pull out just the row
>> estimates, maybe with extra rounding to cope with instability.
>
> Don't have time to think about the more general question right now,
> but as far as the testing goes, there's already precedent for filtering
> EXPLAIN output --- see explain_sq_limit() in subselect.sql. But I'm
> dubious whether the rowcount estimate could be relied on to be perfectly
> machine-independent, even if you were hiding costs successfully.
>
Are you referring to rounding errors? We should probably add some fuzz
factor to cover the rounding errors and cause a diff when difference
in expected and reported plan rows is beyond that fuzz factor.
--
Best Wishes,
Ashutosh Bapat
EnterpriseDB Corporation
The Postgres Database Company
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