From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Jeff Anton <antonpgsql(at)hesiod(dot)org> |
Cc: | "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org >> PG-General Mailing List" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Code of Conduct: Is it time? |
Date: | 2016-01-06 17:06:46 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRD4v6VGueWPXki1=wO1beUDvgB=eRbwr3HqeDr_GubGCw@mail.gmail.com |
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2016-01-06 17:46 GMT+01:00 Jeff Anton <antonpgsql(at)hesiod(dot)org>:
> On 01/06/16 08:04, Jim Nasby wrote:
> ...
>
>> increase the number of active developers. My very talented colleague
>>> doesn't write to Postgres due C language. He like to write planner in
>>> lisp or erlang. Or like to play in these languages. C is barrier for
>>> younger people.
>>>
>>
>> ...
>
>> better job of "eating our own dog food". I think it would also be very
>> interesting if there were add-on frameworks that allowed things like a
>> planner written in another language (which with the planner hooks might
>> actually be possible).
>>
>
> Amazing how stuff comes back.
>
> A bit of history... The very first Postgres planner was written in Lisp.
> Mostly this was to get the first usable system going quickly. The problems
> with performance, garbage collection and memory use made a rewrite a high
> priority.
>
I am sorry for offtopic. I didn't propose to rewrite Postgres to Lisp. C is
the most perfect language for long term production usage. But it isn't good
language for scientific work, playing, testing hypothesis.
>
> IMO, most of this discussion is off track. Sadly, a significant
> percentage of highly capable programmers are not very good at personal
> interaction. At some point, poor people skills negate the value of
> programming skills. I do think that needs recognition and a willingness to
> say goodbye to persons who bring disrepute to the effort of keeping the
> Postgresql world moving forward. The problem is codifying such rules and
> that these same people who have the problem will likely argue such rules to
> the death. Maybe the present discussion is an example.
> Jeff Anton
>
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