Re: Dynamic collation support

From: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, PostgreSQL General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Dynamic collation support
Date: 2016-01-19 19:15:42
Message-ID: CAFj8pRD=fLX5BfWu488WpTx84nMdwjuP_yM9aHaPvWV-Cjg_8g@mail.gmail.com
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2016-01-19 20:04 GMT+01:00 Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>:

> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
> > Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >>> Different collates requires different plans - so using dynamic SQL is
> much
> >>> more correct.
> >>> It is same like using variables as columns or tablenames.
> >
> >> Right -- I get it, and I understand the planner issues. But the
> >> amount of revision that goes into a database that internationalizes
> >> can be pretty large. To do it right, any static sql that involves
> >> string ordering can't be used. pl/sql also can't be used. ISTM this
> >> is impolite to certain coding styles.
> >
> > Well, it's the way the SQL committee specified collations to work, so
> > we're pretty much stuck with that syntax.
>
> I understand. It's water under the bridge if a strxfrm() wrapper
> could deliver the goods here. Changing:
>
> ORDER BY foo
> to
> ORDER BY strxfrm(foo, _CollationLocale)
>

this mechanism was used more time in Czech multilanguage applications

Orafce.nlssort use it.

https://github.com/orafce/orafce/blob/master/others.c

Regards

Pavel

> is a nice escape route where _CollationLocale gets suddenly brought on
> to the table. It's going to be awfully slow, but in many cases that's
> acceptable. At least I think so -- I have to play with it.
>
> merlin
>

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