From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com>, Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Request: pg_cancel_backend variant that handles 'idle in transaction' sessions |
Date: | 2015-11-04 17:15:28 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRC04v5N_S_MNuWipqT7snTDNAytSWVF55Fxz9q+ugJ_pQ@mail.gmail.com |
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2015-11-04 18:11 GMT+01:00 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>:
> Merlin Moncure <mmoncure(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> >> Yes, and that is what I meant. I have two problems with
> >> transaction_idle_timeout (as opposed to transaction_timeout):
> >>
> >> A) It's more complex. Unsophisticated administrators may not
> >> understand or set it properly
> >>
> >> B) There is no way to enforce an upper bound on transaction time with
> >> that setting. A pathological application could keep a transaction
> >> open forever without running into any timeouts -- that's a dealbreaker
> >> for me.
> >>
> >> From my point of view the purpose of the setting should be to protect
> >> you from any single actor from doing things that damage the database.
> >> 'idle in transaction' happens to be one obvious way, but upper bound
> >> on transaction time protects you in general way.
>
> > Note, having both settings would work too.
>
> I'd vote for just transaction_timeout. The way our timeout manager
> logic works, that should be more efficient, as the timeout would only
> have to be established once at transaction start, not every time the
> main command loop iterates.
>
I cannot to say, so transaction_timeout is not useful, but it cannot be
effective solution for some mentioned issues. With larger data you cannot
to set transaction_timeout less than few hours.
Regards
Pavel
>
> regards, tom lane
>
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