From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> |
Cc: | Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: 9.4 Proposal: Initdb creates a single table |
Date: | 2014-04-23 07:13:37 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRAfXmJQWLRhqpnC+UsKC7JeSN=91uZVywAkTatWrinzuQ@mail.gmail.com |
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Hello
if you are thinking about this direction, then store there some demo
project.
I am don't think so isolated table has significant price.
Regards
Pavel
2014-04-23 8:45 GMT+02:00 Craig Ringer <craig(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>:
> On 04/23/2014 02:11 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> > I propose we add a single table called Postgres when we Initdb
> >
> > CREATE TABLE Postgres (Id Integer, Data Jsonb);
>
> Without particular comment on the need for the table, I'd be concerned
> about calling it "postgres".
>
> My personal impression from Stack Overflow etc has been that users are
> readily confused by the fact that we have:
>
> - Database engine/system "postgres"
> - backend binary "postgres" (they see it in ps)
> - unix user "postgres"
> - Pg superuser "postgres"
> - database "postgres"
>
> Sure, there's an argument for running with the theme here, but I suspect
> using the name "postgres" for a default table will just muddy the waters
> a bit more.
>
> Even "postgres_table" would help.
>
> It *absolutely must* be lower case, whatever it is, IMO. If you're going
> for newest-of-the-newbies, the last thing you want to do is having them
> dealing with it being just Postgres in some places, and having to be
> "Postgres" in others.
>
> Personally, don't know if I'm convinced it's overly worth doing - but I
> think it's silly to dismiss without actually corralling up some users
> who're unfamiliar with Pg and watching them get started. I'd love to see
> some properly conducted usability studies of Pg, and something like this
> would fit in well.
>
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