From: | Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
Cc: | Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: VIP: new format for psql - shell - simple using psql in shell |
Date: | 2012-05-26 16:50:17 |
Message-ID: | CAFj8pRANcwXEK6+--WwzgENLgq7F6mQdP5O-VXex85=dYSeP7w@mail.gmail.com |
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2012/5/26 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>:
> Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
>> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 05:39:23PM +0200, Pavel Stehule wrote:
>>> I proposed new psql's format "shell". This format is optimized for
>>> processing returned result in shell:
>
>> I am unclear exactly how this relates to shells.
>
> What I'm unclear on is why we'd want to encourage that style of
> programming. The most charitable prediction of performance is that it
> would suck --- not only do you have all the inefficiencies inherent in
> row-by-row result processing with a shell script, but you're forcing a
> separate database connection for each query. And I don't actually see
> where it would be especially convenient to use, compared to say perl
> or python or other scripting languages. I'd rather see us worrying
> about the convenience of cases like
>
> psql ... | perl -e ...
A performance is not important in this case - typical use case for
this feature are simple tasks - some simple maintaining - where people
can prepare SQL in psql, and later can reuse knowledge in some simple
scripts. Shell has one significant advantage against perl or python -
is everywhere (on UNIX) and it is best for very simple tasks.
Regards
Pavel
>
> regards, tom lane
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