Re: Usability improvements for PgAmin4

Hi César,

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 6:18 PM, César Arriaga Egüés <tolega(at)hotmail(dot)com>
wrote:

> Dear friends at Pgadmin developer team:
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> First of all I would like to thank very much you your commitment and
> effort in developing such usable and professional tools like PgAdmin.
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> But also I want to make you know that in my opinion PgAdmin4 has lose in
> usability and performance respect to PgAdmin III, where I was used to
> access the information in a more rapid way (with the same hardware). Of
> course I’m sure that PgAdmin4 has a lot of advantages regarding to his new
> architecture: maintainability, multi-platform, etc., that they will
> contribute to the future of this tool.
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> Regarding to usability: it is difficult for me to explain all the worse
> user experience situations but I must say that in a whole the user
> experience is worse.
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> That is the reason for not having adopted yet PgAdmin4 in my daily work
> (after some test drives) and why I’ve been using PgAdmin3 until today.
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> But that is going to an end: I am started to use PostgreSQL 10 and PgAdmin
> III issues to many compatibility errors… In other words: I am now forced to
> rid of PgAdmin III and search for other alternatives.
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> Issues to point (I enclose the reference to a previous thread regarding
> some of them):
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> - Performance:
> - Starting the application.
> - SQL Pane: time to refresh the SQL corresponding to a DB object.
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> As per your comments, I think you are using pgAdmin 4 in Desktop runtime
mode.
The new version of pgAdmin 4 is going to release soon, with this release
you will find the better performance.

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> - Query tool:
> - Lack of status bar: this functionality was very, very, very
> useful. Not only for Line, column position, also for the last returned
> information (query result time). Need of a fixed area for this kind of
> information.
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> You can add the feature request @
https://redmine.postgresql.org/projects/pgadmin4

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> - Query info notifier: related to the previous. I strongly
> discourage you to use such kind of “moving” UI artifacts. Things that
> appear and disappear could be nice and fancy for some users but also
> annoying and focus losing:
> - If you configure it to disappear: you want have the info. when
> you need it unless you click (another click) the message history.
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> We have already added configurable keyboard shortcuts for the common
functionalities, so one can navigate through keyboard easily. You will have
this feature in the next release.

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> - When the notifier disappears: distraction, focus lose. We are
> information users, needed of concentration, focus…
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> The feature request to add an option to disable the notification animation
has been already added @https://redmine.postgresql.org/issues/1978 and that
is on priority.

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> - If you configure it to not disappear: you will get a stack of
> messages that you will have to hide manually (each one)…
> - Thanks god (and you) that you can configure to show Query tool in
> a new Browser window (detachable from the main window indeed), but:
> - It would be also useful to be able to configure these new
> windows would be detached when they are created.
> - Ctrl++, Ctrl+-, don’t work in detached Query Tool windows. I
> suppose this can be amended.
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> This issue will be fixed in the next release.

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> - Backup and restore feedback: the same problems stated due to the
> use of “notifier toasts”.
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> Related conversation:
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> https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/1597397302.
> 9546526.1506434712083%40mail.yahoo.com#1597397302.9546526.
> 1506434712083(at)mail(dot)yahoo(dot)com
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> Thanks again for your work. Looking forward to see these and new
> improvements in incoming versions.
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> César Arriaga
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Thanks,
Khushboo