Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer

From: Khushboo Vashi <khushboo(dot)vashi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
To: Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, pgAdmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Akshay Joshi <akshay(dot)joshi(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Drop support for Internet Explorer
Date: 2020-04-10 04:07:23
Message-ID: CAFOhELcYLbVTW-FM+VHTzPTW86qP-zj+Cc9-Yh+JsPU3w7=3Pg@mail.gmail.com
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On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:57 PM Darren Duncan <darren(at)darrenduncan(dot)net>
wrote:

> The patch looks good as much as I understand it, but this raises an
> important
> question:
>
> How should one best handle minority browsers that may be completely modern
> but
> you may not specifically know about them? Such as the newer crop of
> browsers
> that emphasize stronger privacy or may have fewer identifiers?
>
> While going on a whitelist as the patch essentially does for known good
> browsers
> is conservative, I feel that an alteration would be good.
>
> I propose dividing the browsers/environments into 3 categories, which are
> recognized-supported, recognized-unsupported, and unrecognized.
>

> So the unsupported older versions of supported browsers get a stronger
> message
> encouraging a browser switch as they are recognized as unsupported, while
> unrecognized browsers get a different weaker message saying they weren't
> recognized so we can't determine if they'd work; both can point to the
> list of
> known supported browsers.
>
> I do agree with this suggestion.

> Related to this, there could be an application toggle that affects the
> unrecognized category where users can basically say, yes I understand you
> don't
> recognize this browser, please hide the warning, or something like that.
>
> Also, it probably goes without saying, but the code/templates will need to
> be
> structured in such a way that the warning message uses about plain as
> possible
> HTML so that if the browser doesn't support displaying the UI in general
> it can
> at least display the message.
>
> -- Darren Duncan
>
> On 2020-04-09 4:36 a.m., Dave Page wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:26 AM Darren Duncan wrote:
> >
> > If its hard to know how many people are actually using Internet
> Explorer:
> >
> > You could make the next release of pgAdmin display a message
> occasionally to
> > users of Internet Explorer saying that Internet Explorer will no
> longer be
> > officially supported in a future version, and when that version
> comes the
> > message says now no longer supported.
> >
> > You can then see how many people contact you about this to express
> concern.
> >
> >
> > Good idea. I've hacked up a patch to warn users if they're using a
> deprecated or
> > unsupported browser.
> >
> > CCing Akshay for a review :-)
> >
> > --
> > Dave Page
> > Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> > Twitter: @pgsnake
> >
> > EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> > The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>
>
>
>

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