Re: ZStandard (with dictionaries) compression support for TOAST compression

From: Nikhil Kumar Veldanda <veldanda(dot)nikhilkumar17(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: ZStandard (with dictionaries) compression support for TOAST compression
Date: 2025-04-28 21:32:08
Message-ID: CAFAfj_HDWFOTfaNhE3F=fGhwDTqAgV=J1Dj7XUDnbvzGZHpOVw@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Robert,

Thanks for raising that question. The idea behind including a 24-bit
length field alongside the 1-byte algorithm ID is to ensure that each
compressed datum self-describes its metadata size. This allows any
compression algorithm to embed variable-length metadata (up to 16 MB)
without the need for hard-coding header sizes. For instance, an
algorithm in feature might require different metadata lengths for each
datum, and a fixed header size table wouldn’t work. By storing the
length in the header, we maintain a generic and future-proof design. I
would greatly appreciate any feedback on this design. Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 7:50 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 11:15 AM Nikhil Kumar Veldanda
> <veldanda(dot)nikhilkumar17(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > a. 24 bits for length → per-datum compression algorithm metadata is
> > capped at 16 MB, which is far more than any realistic compression
> > header.
> > b. 8 bits for algorithm id → up to 256 algorithms.
> > c. Zero-overhead when unused if an algorithm needs no per-datum
> > metadata (e.g., ZSTD-nodict),
>
> I don't understand why we need to spend 24 bits on a length header
> here. I agree with the idea of adding a 1-byte quantity for algorithm
> here, but I don't see why we need anything more than that. If the
> compression method is zstd-with-a-dict, then the payload data
> presumably needs to start with the OID of the dictionary, but it seems
> like in your schema every single datum would use these 3 bytes to
> store the fact that sizeof(Oid) = 4. The code that interprets
> zstd-with-dict datums should already know the header length. Even if
> generic code that works with all types of compression needs to be able
> to obtain the header length on a per-compression-type basis, there can
> be some kind of callback or table for that, rather than storing it in
> every single datum.
>
> --
> Robert Haas
> EDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com

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Nikhil Veldanda

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