Re: pgAdmin 4 1.0-beta4 - Query Tool, Select file popup issues

From: André Cardoso <andrekrieg(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Michal Kozusznik <kozusznik(dot)michal(at)ifortuna(dot)cz>
Cc: pgAdmin Support <pgadmin-support(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgAdmin 4 1.0-beta4 - Query Tool, Select file popup issues
Date: 2016-10-26 15:34:47
Message-ID: CAF66oBdbrKY4xx_=rKkRcC5hAL-L0fXpJc7bYK6ynsuEHA1kwQ@mail.gmail.com
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Well... Looks like you don't have any experience with SQL Server...
Oracle works pretty the same way with dump files... At server side... Same
with backup files...

I think the lazy/amateur guy here is only you...

2016-10-26 13:31 GMT-02:00 Michal Kozusznik <kozusznik(dot)michal(at)ifortuna(dot)cz>:

> I can only say, that making dump files on server side is neither good
> practice or practical. In both cases there are multiple reasons why not do
> that.
> And in most cases it's automated job, which this usecase irrelevant for
> pgAdmin.
>
> I can admit it might be handsome in some (lazy/amateur) usecases. But it
> shouldn't be used to drift requirements and user experience wrong way
>
> best regards
> MK
>
>
>
> On 26.10.2016 17:19, André Cardoso wrote:
>
> Reason to work with files stored on server: dump/backup file
>
> Do you already worked with Microsoft SQL Server? If you do, then you know
> some things are more secure at server side than client side... IMHO...
>
>
>
> 2016-10-26 13:00 GMT-02:00 Michal Kozusznik <kozusznik(dot)michal(at)ifortuna(dot)cz>
> :
>
>> On 26.10.2016 16:15, Dave Page wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Or a misunderstanding on your part on the goals of the project and
>>> reasons for them.
>>>
>>
>> So just list the reasons, please.
>> IMO there is no single reason to work with files stored on the server. It
>> could be even considered non-safe in some scenarios. It's enough to work
>> with client-side files. It's valid for local as well as remote work
>>
>>
>>> I agree. Except where it is not possible to do so, or in cases where
>>> it could lead to an inconsistent UI experience.
>>>
>>> What do you mean by inconsistent UI experience? If you mean pgadmin
>> having different file browser appearance across various operating systems
>> then it's non-relevant argument. Goal should be to have UI-consistent app
>> in environment it's running under.
>>
>> With client-app responsible for opening files approach, everything would
>> work out together.
>>
>> with regards
>> MK
>>
>>
>>
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