Re: 9.6 -> 10.0

From: Oleg Bartunov <obartunov(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, pgsql-advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(dot)geoghegan86(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: 9.6 -> 10.0
Date: 2016-04-11 08:13:57
Message-ID: CAF4Au4zLjSH1MtPjqBo58=oSxDBALa=HvnOXr_qAFrhMh9UAFQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Mar 22, 2016 9:03 PM, "Josh berkus" <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On 03/22/2016 10:52 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Josh berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com> wrote:
> >> It's important to remember that PR strategy and engineering truth have
> >> only a passing acquaintance. While we don't want to promote vaporware,
> >> we do sometimes soft-pedal our own features to our project's detriment.
> >> In the current atomosphere of VC-funded hype, we'd do a bit better to
> >> trumpet our accomplishements early and often.
> >
> > I see what you mean.
> >
> > The question must be asked: What feature *would* meet that "major
> > version bump" standard? If it's not extensive parallelism, then I
> > don't know what else it could be.
>
> Well, if we had pglogical AND parallel, I would be pushing hard for
> 10.0. As it is, I was going to wait to see what else gets in.
>
> As it is, we have parallel and we have all of the BDR dependancies
> merged in, no? That still seems like a new era for PostgreSQL; I think
> we can expect the next few releases to be all about (a) parallelizing
> more things and (b) building out clustering stuff.
>
> One thing we don't much talk about is that we hit an inflection point
> somewhere in the 9.X series, as demonstrated by CitusDB: it is now as
> easy to build out your "Postgres Fork" by using our APIs and hooks as it
> is by forking the project. That's going to make a big difference for us
> in the long run, possibly bigger than any individual feature.

Well, API is enough to build non-transactional distributed databases. We
proposed pluggable TM to go further. Hope it will get more attention at
pgcon.

BTW, what's about unforking pipelinedb ? Is't possible with our API and
hooks ? There is a big demand from russian companies to Postgres and we
are in difficult situation. Small steps forward is good, but it looks like
we need hard thinking about our roadmap.

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