Re: Let's Do the CoC Right

From: Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>
To: "FarjadFarid(ChkNet)" <farjad(dot)farid(at)checknetworks(dot)com>
Cc: Geoff Winkless <pgsqladmin(at)geoff(dot)dj>, Postgres General <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Let's Do the CoC Right
Date: 2016-01-22 12:47:52
Message-ID: CAEzk6fc65k6OStcrxKeoh1zenQ46p+Ci+pPSELO2caSXy8PChQ@mail.gmail.com
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On 22 January 2016 at 12:08, FarjadFarid(ChkNet)
<farjad(dot)farid(at)checknetworks(dot)com> wrote:
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> But Geoff, Without knowing what problems people are facing in their businesses no product will ever stay relevant to end users for long.

Then end users will move on, or get involved. That's also right and proper.

> So everyone's problem and comment is relevant and valuable.
> Even though the postgresql developers obviously see a broader picture and naturally have a greater say.

Well no. The Postgresql developers can decide whether everyone else's
comments are relevant to them and, if they decide otherwise, they can
say "no, thanks, we don't want to do that. There are several other
products that might help you, feel free to use those."

Eventually, the people who are asking for those things will either
move to a different database, or become developers either within
postgres or in a fork. That is how Open Source works.

> We all need to approach each other in a humble learning mode. No one is trying to educate you.

I'm not objecting to people trying to educate me, I'm objecting to
your implication that those people who do not want a CoC are simply
uneducated. I think it's fairly clear, given the amount of discussion
that has gone on, that the people who still don't think it's necessary
are likely to have reached an educated conclusion to that effect.

> The fact you are taking it that way is only your perspective and what is wrong with learning something new?

Oh, I see! It's not you who is causing me upset, but rather my fault
for taking it that way?

You really don't see the irony in that, given the context of the discussion?

Geoff

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