From: | Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> |
Cc: | Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie>, Masahiro(dot)Ikeda(at)nttdata(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org, Masao(dot)Fujii(at)nttdata(dot)com |
Subject: | Re: Improve EXPLAIN output for multicolumn B-Tree Index |
Date: | 2024-06-28 12:05:23 |
Message-ID: | CAEze2Wh63ZOG1wTuiqAkhpnrQFeR6q9Z6Bctz32k1kMbbW_7NA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 10:59, Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 00:41, Peter Geoghegan <pg(at)bowt(dot)ie> wrote:
> > Typically, no, it won't be. But there's really no telling for sure.
> > The access patterns for a composite index on '(a, b)' with a qual
> > "WHERE b = 5" are identical to a qual explicitly written "WHERE a =
> > any(<every possible value in 'a'>) AND b = 5".
>
> Hmm, that's true. But in that case the explain plan gives a clear hint
> that something like that might be going on, because you'll see:
>
> Index Cond: a = any(<every possible value in 'a'>) AND b = 5
>
> That does make me think of another way, and maybe more "correct" way,
> of representing Masahiros situation than adding a new "Skip Scan Cond"
> row to the EXPLAIN output. We could explicitly include a comparison to
> all prefix columns in the Index Cond:
>
> Index Cond: ((test.id1 = 1) AND (test.id2 = ANY) AND (test.id3 = 101))
>
> Or if you want to go with syntactically correct SQL we could do the following:
>
> Index Cond: ((test.id1 = 1) AND ((test.id2 IS NULL) OR (test.id2 IS
> NOT NULL)) AND (test.id3 = 101))
>
> An additional benefit this provides is that you now know which
> additional column you should use a more specific filter on to speed up
> the query. In this case test.id2
>
> OTOH, maybe it's not a great way because actually running that puts
> the IS NULL+ IS NOT NULL query in the Filter clause (which honestly
> surprises me because I had expected this "always true expression"
> would have been optimized away by the planner).
>
> > EXPLAIN (VERBOSE, ANALYZE) SELECT id1, id2, id3 FROM test WHERE id1 = 1 AND (id2 IS NULL OR id2 IS NOT NULL) AND id3 = 101;
> QUERY PLAN
> ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────
> Index Only Scan using test_idx on public.test (cost=0.42..12809.10
> rows=1 width=12) (actual time=0.027..11.234 rows=1 loops=1)
> Output: id1, id2, id3
> Index Cond: ((test.id1 = 1) AND (test.id3 = 101))
> Filter: ((test.id2 IS NULL) OR (test.id2 IS NOT NULL))
>
> > What about cases where we legitimately have to vary our strategy
> > during the same index scan?
>
> Would my new suggestion above address this?
>
> > In fact, that'd make sense even today, without skip scan (just with
> > the 17 work on nbtree SAOP scans). Even with regular SAOP nbtree index
> > scans, the number of primitive scans is hard to predict, and quite
> > indicative of what's really going on with the scan.
>
> *googles nbtree SAOP scans and finds the very helpful[1]*
>
> Yes, I feel like this should definitely be part of the ANALYZE output.
> Seeing how Lukas has to look at pg_stat_user_tables to get this
> information seems quite annoying[2] and only possible on systems that
> have no concurrent queries.
>
> So it sounds like we'd want a "Primitive Index Scans" counter in
> ANALYZE too. In addition to the number of filtered rows by, which if
> we go with my proposal above should probably be called "Rows Removed
> by Index Cond".
This all just made me more confident that this shows a need to enable
index AMs to provide output for EXPLAIN: The knowledge about how index
scankeys are actually used is exclusively known to the index AM,
because the strategies are often unique to the index AM (or even
chosen operator classes), and sometimes can only be applied at
runtime: while the index scankeys' sizes, attribute numbers and
operators are known in advance (even if not all arguments are filled
in; `FROM a JOIN b ON b.id = ANY (a.ref_array)`), the AM can at least
show what strategy it is likely going to choose, and how (in)efficient
that strategy could be.
Right now, Masahiro-san's patch tries to do that with an additional
field in IndexPath populated (by proxy) exclusively in btcostestimate.
I think that design is wrong, because it wires explain- and
btree-specific data through the planner, adding overhead everywhere
which is only used for btree- and btree-compatible indexes.
I think the better choice would be adding an IndexAmRoutine->amexplain
support function, which would get called in e.g. explain.c's
ExplainIndexScanDetails to populate a new "Index Scan Details" (name
to be bikeshed) subsection of explain plans. This would certainly be
possible, as the essentials for outputting things to EXPLAIN are
readily available in the explain.h header.
Kind regards,
Matthias van de Meent
Neon (https://neon.tech)
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