From: | Ranier Vilela <ranier(dot)vf(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Tomas Vondra <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
Cc: | Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org> |
Subject: | Re: Fix Brin Private Spool Initialization (src/backend/access/brin/brin.c) |
Date: | 2023-12-29 13:53:12 |
Message-ID: | CAEudQArC1w9njOt4ijcGKiC7LQG5v9hLP-QhQ0YLiBXMV5vU4A@mail.gmail.com |
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Em sex., 29 de dez. de 2023 às 10:33, Tomas Vondra <
tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> escreveu:
>
>
> On 12/29/23 12:53, Ranier Vilela wrote:
> > Em qui., 28 de dez. de 2023 às 22:16, Tomas Vondra
> > <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com <mailto:tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>>
> > escreveu:
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/27/23 12:37, Ranier Vilela wrote:
> > > Em ter., 26 de dez. de 2023 às 19:07, Tomas Vondra
> > > <tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com
> > <mailto:tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
> > <mailto:tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com
> > <mailto:tomas(dot)vondra(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>>>
> > > escreveu:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/26/23 19:10, Ranier Vilela wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The commit b437571
> > > <http://b437571714707bc6466abde1a0af5e69aaade09c
> > <http://b437571714707bc6466abde1a0af5e69aaade09c>
> > > <http://b437571714707bc6466abde1a0af5e69aaade09c
> > <http://b437571714707bc6466abde1a0af5e69aaade09c>>> I
> > > > think has an oversight.
> > > > When allocate memory and initialize private spool in
> function:
> > > > _brin_leader_participate_as_worker
> > > >
> > > > The behavior is the bs_spool (heap and index fields)
> > > > are left empty.
> > > >
> > > > The code affected is:
> > > > buildstate->bs_spool = (BrinSpool *)
> > palloc0(sizeof(BrinSpool));
> > > > - buildstate->bs_spool->heap = buildstate->bs_spool->heap;
> > > > - buildstate->bs_spool->index = buildstate->bs_spool->index;
> > > > + buildstate->bs_spool->heap = heap;
> > > > + buildstate->bs_spool->index = index;
> > > >
> > > > Is the fix correct?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for noticing this.
> > >
> > > You're welcome.
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, I believe this is a bug - the assignments
> > > are certainly wrong, it leaves the fields set to NULL.
> > >
> > > I wonder how come this didn't fail during testing. Surely, if
> > the leader
> > > participates as a worker, the tuplesort_begin_index_brin shall
> > be called
> > > with heap/index being NULL, leading to some failure during the
> > sort. But
> > > maybe this means we don't actually need the heap/index fields,
> > it's just
> > > a copy of TuplesortIndexArg, but BRIN does not need that
> > because we sort
> > > the tuples by blkno, and we don't need the descriptors for
> that.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately I can't test on Windows, since I can't build with
> > meson on
> > > Windows.
> > >
> > >
> > > In any case, the _brin_parallel_scan_and_build does not
> > actually need
> > > the separate heap/index arguments, those are already in the
> spool.
> > >
> > > Yeah, for sure.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll try to figure out if we want to simplify the tuplesort or
> > remove
> > > the arguments from _brin_parallel_scan_and_build.
> > >
> >
> > Here is a patch simplifying the BRIN parallel create code a little
> bit.
> > As I suspected, we don't need the heap/index in the spool at all,
> and we
> > don't need to pass it to tuplesort_begin_index_brin either - we only
> > need blkno, and we have that in the datum1 field. This also means we
> > don't need TuplesortIndexBrinArg.
> >
> > With Windows 10, msvc 2022, compile end pass ninja test.
> >
> > But, if you allow me, I would like to try another approach to
> > simplification.
> > Instead of increasing the arguments in the call, wouldn't it be better
> > to decrease them
> > and this way all arguments will be passed in the registers instead of on
> > a stack?
> >
>
> If this was beneficial, we'd be passing everything through structs and
> not as explicit arguments. But we don't. If you're arguing it's
> beneficial in this case, it'd be good to see it demonstrated.
>
Please see the https://www.agner.org/optimize/optimizing_cpp.pdf
Excerpt:
"Use 64-bit mode
Parameter transfer is more efficient in 64-bit mode than in 32-bit mode,
and more efficient in 64-bit Linux than in 64-bit Windows. In 64-bit Linux,
the first six integer parameters and the first eight floating point
parameters are transferred in registers, totaling up to fourteen register
parameters. In 64-bit Windows, the first four parameters are transferred in
registers, regardless of whether they are integers or floating point
numbers."
With function:
_brin_parallel_scan_and_build(buildstate, buildstate->bs_spool,
brinshared, sharedsort, heapRel, indexRel, sortmem, false);
We have:
Linux -> six first parameters in registers and two parameters in stack
Windows -> four parameters in registers and four parameters in stack
> > bs_spool may well contain this data and will probably be useful in the
> > future.
> >
> > I made a v1 version, based on your patch, for your consideration.
> >
>
> I did actually consider doing it this way yesterday, but I don't like
> this approach. I don't believe it's faster (and even if it was, the
> difference is going to be negligible), and parameters hidden in some
> struct increase the cognitive load. I like explicit arguments.
>
Personally I prefer data in structs, of course,
always thinking about size and alignment, to optimize loading.
Best regards,
Ranier Vilela
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