Re: Hardware recommendations?

From: Steve Crawford <scrawford(at)pinpointresearch(dot)com>
To: Scott Marlowe <scott(dot)marlowe(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Steve Atkins <steve(at)blighty(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Hardware recommendations?
Date: 2016-11-02 22:01:36
Message-ID: CAEfWYyxR5ATmjmjXLRkm6+Pa-DZS+JuA-v-xu2gpW8qUeoV9Qw@mail.gmail.com
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After much cogitation I eventually went RAID-less. Why? The only option for
hardware RAID was SAS SSDs and given that they are not built on
electro-mechanical spinning-rust technology it seemed like the RAID card
was just another point of solid-state failure. I combined that with the
fact that the RAID card limited me to the relatively slow SAS data-transfer
rates that are blown away by what you get with something like an Intel NVME
SSD plugged into the PCI bus. Raiding those could be done in software plus
$$$ for the NVME SSDs but I already have data-redundancy through a
combination of regular backups and streaming replication to identically
equipped machines which rarely lag the master by more than a second.

Cheers,
Steve

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Scott Marlowe <scott(dot)marlowe(at)gmail(dot)com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
> wrote:
> > On 11/02/2016 10:03 AM, Steve Atkins wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm looking for generic advice on hardware to use for "mid-sized"
> >> postgresql servers, $5k or a bit more.
> >>
> >> There are several good documents from the 9.0 era, but hardware has
> moved
> >> on since then, particularly with changes in SSD pricing.
> >>
> >> Has anyone seen a more recent discussion of what someone might want for
> >> PostreSQL in 2017?
> >
> >
> > The rules haven't changed much, more cores (even if a bit slower) is
> better
> > than less, as much ram as the budget will allow and:
> >
> > SSD
> >
> > But make sure you get datacenter/enterprise SSDs. Consider that even a
> slow
> > datacenter/enterprise SSD can do 500MB/s random write and read just as
> fast
> > if not faster. That means for most installations, a RAID1 is more than
> > enough.
>
> Just to add that many setups utilizing SSDs are as fast or faster
> using kernel level RAID as they are with a hardware RAID controller,
> esp if the RAID controller has caching enabled. We went from 3k to 5k
> tps to 15 to 18k tps by turnong off caching on modern LSI MegaRAID
> controllers running RAID5.
>
>
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