Re: RFC: Remove contrib entirely

Le 29 mai 2015 8:10 AM, "Pavel Stehule" <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com> a écrit :
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> Hi
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> I am not sure if PGXN can substitute contrib - mainly due deployment - It
doesn't helps with MS Windows. Installing necessary software for
compilation there is terrible.
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I agree it's hard to compile an extension on Windows, but that's already
what we have. And I'm sure EDB will put all interesting contrib modules in
their windows installer to help users. They already go way further than any
Linux packages.

> Regards
>
> Pavel
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> 2015-05-28 18:19 GMT+02:00 Joshua D. Drake <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>:
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>> Hello,
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>> This is a topic that has come up in various ways over the years. After
the long thread on pg_audit, I thought it might be time to bring it up
again.
>>
>> Contrib according to the docs is:
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>> "These include porting tools, analysis utilities, and plug-in features
that are not part of the core PostgreSQL system, mainly because they
address a limited audience or are too experimental to be part of the main
source tree. This does not preclude their usefulness."
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>> It has also been mentioned many times over the years that contrib is a
holding tank for technology that would hopefully be pushed into core
someday.
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>> What I am suggesting:
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>> 1. Analyze the current contrib modules for inclusion into -core. A few
of these are pretty obvious:
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>> pg_stat_statements
>> citext
>> postgres_fdw
>> hstore
>> pg_crypto
>> [...]
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>> I am sure there will be plenty of fun to be had with what should or
shouldn't be merged into core. I think if we argue about the guidelines of
how to analyze what should be in core versus the merits of any particular
module, life will be easier. Here are some for a start:
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>> A. Must have been in contrib for at least two releases
>> B. Must have visible community (and thus use case)
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>> 2. Push the rest out into a .Org project called contrib. Let those who
are interested in the technology work on them or use them. This project
since it is outside of core proper can work just like other extension
projects. Alternately, allow the maintainers push them wherever they like
(Landscape, Github, Savannah, git.postgresql.org ...).
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>> Why I am suggesting this:
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>> 1. Less code to maintain in core
>> 2. Eliminates the mysticism of contrib
>> 3. Removal of experimental code from core
>> 4. Most of the distributions package contrib separately anyway
>> 5. Some of core is extremely small use case (sepgsql, tsearch2, lo ...)
>> 6. Finding utilities for PostgreSQL used to be harder. It is rather dumb
simple teenage snapchat user easy now.
>> 8. Isn't this what pgxs is for?
>> 9. Everybody hates cleaning the closet until the end result.
>> 10. Several of these modules would make PostgreSQL look good anyway
(default case insensitive index searching with citext? It is a gimme)
>> 11. Contrib has been getting smaller and smaller. Let's cut the cord.
>> 12. Isn't this the whole point of extensions?
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>> Sincerely,
>>
>> jD
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