From: | Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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To: | Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com> |
Cc: | Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Jeremy Schneider <schneider(at)ardentperf(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, SATYANARAYANA NARLAPURAM <satyanarlapuram(at)gmail(dot)com>, marvin_liang(at)qq(dot)com, actyzhang(at)outlook(dot)com |
Subject: | Re: pg_walinspect - a new extension to get raw WAL data and WAL stats |
Date: | 2022-03-02 14:41:52 |
Message-ID: | CAE9k0Pn4H48D7iK=T-B2CtnCCab7DgQ4MUUCLfzFf345HmkrGQ@mail.gmail.com |
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Some review comments on v5 patch (v5-0001-pg_walinspect.patch)
+--
+-- pg_get_wal_records_info()
+--
+CREATE FUNCTION pg_get_wal_records_info(IN start_lsn pg_lsn,
+ IN end_lsn pg_lsn,
+ IN wait_for_wal boolean DEFAULT false,
+ OUT lsn pg_lsn,
What does the wait_for_wal flag mean here when one has already
specified the start and end lsn? AFAIU, If a user has specified a
start and stop LSN, it means that the user knows the extent to which
he/she wants to display the WAL records in which case we need to stop
once the end lsn has reached . So what is the meaning of wait_for_wal
flag? Does it look sensible to have the wait_for_wal flag here? To me
it doesn't.
==
+--
+-- pg_get_wal_records_info_till_end_of_wal()
+--
+CREATE FUNCTION pg_get_wal_records_info_till_end_of_wal(IN start_lsn pg_lsn,
+ OUT lsn pg_lsn,
+ OUT prev_lsn pg_lsn,
+ OUT xid xid,
Why is this function required? Is pg_get_wal_records_info() alone not
enough? I think it is. See if we can make end_lsn optional in
pg_get_wal_records_info() and lets just have it alone. I think it can
do the job of pg_get_wal_records_info_till_end_of_wal function.
==
+--
+-- pg_get_wal_stats_till_end_of_wal()
+--
+CREATE FUNCTION pg_get_wal_stats_till_end_of_wal(IN start_lsn pg_lsn,
+ OUT resource_manager text,
+ OUT count int8,
Above comment applies to this function as well. Isn't pg_get_wal_stats() enough?
==
+ if (loc <= read_upto)
+ break;
+
+ /* Let's not wait for WAL to be available if
indicated */
+ if (loc > read_upto &&
+ state->private_data != NULL)
+ {
Why loc > read_upto? The first if condition is (loc <= read_upto)
followed by the second if condition - (loc > read_upto). Is the first
if condition (loc <= read_upto) not enough to indicate that loc >
read_upto?
==
+#define IsEndOfWALReached(state) \
+ (state->private_data != NULL && \
+ (((ReadLocalXLOGPage2Private *)
xlogreader->private_data)->no_wait == true) && \
+ (((ReadLocalXLOGPage2Private *)
xlogreader->private_data)->reached_end_of_wal == true))
I think we should either use state or xlogreader. First line says
state->private_data and second line xlogreader->private_data.
==
+ (((ReadLocalXLOGPage2Private *)
xlogreader->private_data)->reached_end_of_wal == true))
+
There is a new patch coming to make the end of WAL messages less
scary. It introduces the EOW flag in xlogreaderstate maybe we can use
that instead of introducing new flags in private area to represent the
end of WAL.
==
+/*
+ * XLogReaderRoutine->page_read callback for reading local xlog files
+ *
+ * This function is same as read_local_xlog_page except that it works in both
+ * wait and no wait mode. The callers can specify about waiting in private_data
+ * of XLogReaderState.
+ */
+int
+read_local_xlog_page_2(XLogReaderState *state, XLogRecPtr targetPagePtr,
+ int reqLen, XLogRecPtr
targetRecPtr, char *cur_page)
+{
+ XLogRecPtr read_upto,
Do we really need this function? Can't we make use of an existing WAL
reader function - read_local_xlog_page()?
--
With Regards,
Ashutosh Sharma.
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 4:33 PM Bharath Rupireddy
<bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:04 AM Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > I don't think that's the use case of this patch. Unless there is some
> > other valid reason, I would suggest you remove it.
>
> Removed the function pg_verify_raw_wal_record. Robert and Greg also
> voted for removal upthread.
>
> > > > Should we add a function that returns the pointer to the first and
> > > > probably the last WAL record in the WAL segment? This would help users
> > > > to inspect the wal records in the entire wal segment if they wish to
> > > > do so.
> > >
> > > Good point. One can do this already with pg_get_wal_records_info and
> > > pg_walfile_name_offset. Usually, the LSN format itself can give an
> > > idea about the WAL file it is in.
> > >
> > > postgres=# select lsn, pg_walfile_name_offset(lsn) from
> > > pg_get_wal_records_info('0/5000000', '0/5FFFFFF') order by lsn asc
> > > limit 1;
> > > lsn | pg_walfile_name_offset
> > > -----------+-------------------------------
> > > 0/5000038 | (000000010000000000000005,56)
> > > (1 row)
> > >
> > > postgres=# select lsn, pg_walfile_name_offset(lsn) from
> > > pg_get_wal_records_info('0/5000000', '0/5FFFFFF') order by lsn desc
> > > limit 1;
> > > lsn | pg_walfile_name_offset
> > > -----------+-------------------------------------
> > > 0/5FFFFC0 | (000000010000000000000005,16777152)
> > > (1 row)
> > >
> >
> > The workaround you are suggesting is not very user friendly and FYKI
> > pg_wal_records_info simply hangs at times when we specify the higher
> > and lower limit of lsn in a wal file.
> >
> > To make things easier for the end users I would suggest we add a
> > function that can return a valid first and last lsn in a walfile. The
> > output of this function can be used to inspect the wal records in the
> > entire wal file if they wish to do so and I am sure they will. So, it
> > should be something like this:
> >
> > select first_valid_lsn, last_valid_lsn from
> > pg_get_first_last_valid_wal_record('wal-segment-name');
> >
> > And above function can directly be used with pg_get_wal_records_info() like
> >
> > select pg_get_wal_records_info(pg_get_first_last_valid_wal_record('wal-segment'));
> >
> > I think this is a pretty basic ASK that we expect to be present in the
> > module like this.
>
> Added a new function that returns the first and last valid WAL record
> LSN of a given WAL file.
>
> > > > +PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(pg_get_raw_wal_record);
> > > > +PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(pg_get_first_valid_wal_record_lsn);
> > > > +PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(pg_verify_raw_wal_record);
> > > > +PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(pg_get_wal_record_info);
> > > > +PG_FUNCTION_INFO_V1(pg_get_wal_records_info);
> > > >
> > > > I think we should allow all these functions to be executed in wait and
> > > > *nowait* mode. If a user specifies nowait mode, the function should
> > > > return if no WAL data is present, rather than waiting for new WAL data
> > > > to become available, default behaviour could be anything you like.
> > >
> > > Currently, pg_walinspect uses read_local_xlog_page which waits in the
> > > while(1) loop if a future LSN is specified. As read_local_xlog_page is
> > > an implementation of XLogPageReadCB, which doesn't have a wait/nowait
> > > parameter, if we really need a wait/nowait mode behaviour, we need to
> > > do extra things(either add a backend-level global wait variable, set
> > > before XLogReadRecord, if set, read_local_xlog_page can just exit
> > > without waiting and reset after the XLogReadRecord or add an extra
> > > bool wait variable to XLogReaderState and use it in
> > > read_local_xlog_page).
> > >
> >
> > I am not asking to do any changes in the backend code. Please check -
> > how pg_waldump does this when a user requests to stop once the endptr
> > has reached. If not for all functions at least for a few functions we
> > can do this if it is doable.
>
> I've added a new function read_local_xlog_page_2 (similar to
> read_local_xlog_page but works in wait and no wait mode) and the
> callers can specify whether to wait or not wait using private_data.
> Actually, I wanted to use the private_data structure of
> read_local_xlog_page but the logical decoding already has context as
> private_data, that is why I had to have a new function. I know it
> creates a bit of duplicate code, but its cleaner than using
> backend-local variables or additional flags in XLogReaderState or
> adding wait/no-wait boolean to page_read callback. Any other
> suggestions are welcome here.
>
> With this, I'm able to have wait/no wait versions for any functions.
> But for now, I'm having wait/no wait for two functions
> (pg_get_wal_records_info and pg_get_wal_stats) for which it makes more
> sense.
>
> > > > +Datum
> > > > +pg_get_wal_records_info(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
> > > > +{
> > > > +#define PG_GET_WAL_RECORDS_INFO_COLS 10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We could probably have another variant of this function that would
> > > > work even if the end pointer is not specified, in which case the
> > > > default end pointer would be the last WAL record in the WAL segment.
> > > > Currently it mandates the use of an end pointer which slightly reduces
> > > > flexibility.
> > >
> > > Last WAL record in the WAL segment may not be of much use(one can
> > > figure out the last valid WAL record in a wal file as mentioned
> > > above), but the WAL records info till the latest current flush LSN of
> > > the server would be a useful functionality. But that too, can be found
> > > using something like "select lsn, prev_lsn, resource_manager from
> > > pg_get_wal_records_info('0/8099568', pg_current_wal_lsn());"
> > >
> >
> > What if a user wants to inspect all the valid wal records from a
> > startptr (startlsn) and he doesn't know the endptr? Why should he/she
> > be mandated to get the endptr and supply it to this function? I don't
> > think we should force users to do that. I think this is again a very
> > basic ASK that can be done in this version itself. It is not at all
> > any advanced thing that we can think of doing in the future.
>
> Agreed. Added new functions that emits wal records info/stats till the
> end of the WAL at the moment.
>
> > > > +
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * Get the first valid raw WAL record lsn.
> > > > + */
> > > > +Datum
> > > > +pg_get_first_valid_wal_record_lsn(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this function should return a pointer to the nearest valid WAL
> > > > record which can be the previous WAL record to the LSN entered by the
> > > > user or the next WAL record. If a user unknowingly enters an lsn that
> > > > does not exist then in such cases we should probably return the lsn of
> > > > the previous WAL record instead of hanging or waiting for the new WAL
> > > > record to arrive.
> > >
> > > Is it useful?
> >
> > It is useful in the same way as returning the next valid wal pointer
> > is. Why should a user wait for the next valid wal pointer to be
> > available instead the function should identify the previous valid wal
> > record and return it and put an appropriate message to the user.
> >
> > If there's a strong reason, how about naming
> > > pg_get_next_valid_wal_record_lsn returning the next valid wal record
> > > LSN and pg_get_previous_valid_wal_record_lsn returning the previous
> > > valid wal record LSN ? If you think having two functions is too much,
> > > then, how about pg_get_first_valid_wal_record_lsn returning both the
> > > next valid wal record LSN and its previous wal record LSN?
> > >
> >
> > The latter one looks better.
>
> Modified.
>
> Attaching v5 patch set, please review it further.
>
> Regards,
> Bharath Rupireddy.
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