Re: recovering from "found xmin ... from before relfrozenxid ..."

From: Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Masahiko Sawada <masahiko(dot)sawada(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, "Andrey M(dot) Borodin" <x4mmm(at)yandex-team(dot)ru>, MBeena Emerson <mbeena(dot)emerson(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>
Subject: Re: recovering from "found xmin ... from before relfrozenxid ..."
Date: 2020-08-27 02:26:21
Message-ID: CAE9k0P=-=bQkRqo6XthgHR2GJ-fcoUqJyys_W1neg5p2=yUL0g@mail.gmail.com
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 9:19 PM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:36 AM Ashutosh Sharma <ashu(dot)coek88(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > Removed this note from the documentation and added a note saying: "The
> > user needs to ensure that they do not operate pg_force_freeze function
> > on a deleted tuple because it may revive the deleted tuple."
>
> I do not agree with that note, either. I believe that trying to tell
> people what things specifically they should do or avoid doing with the
> tool is the wrong approach. Instead, the thrust of the message should
> be to tell people that if you use this, it may corrupt your database,
> and that's your problem. The difficulty with telling people what
> specifically they ought to avoid doing is that experts will be annoyed
> to be told that something is not safe when they know that it is fine,
> and non-experts will think that some uses are safer than they really
> are.
>

Okay, point noted.

Thanks,

--
With Regards,
Ashutosh Sharma
EnterpriseDB:http://www.enterprisedb.com

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