Re: [pgAdmin4][RM#3055] Allow user to sort the data in View data mode

From: Joao De Almeida Pereira <jdealmeidapereira(at)pivotal(dot)io>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Murtuza Zabuawala <murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [pgAdmin4][RM#3055] Allow user to sort the data in View data mode
Date: 2018-04-05 17:50:11
Message-ID: CAE+jjakOkMpQG9DgTtSCjc9+w4yXp8_27pbckGQ2eQZYE2YrOQ@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Murtuza,
I forgot to mention this in my review........
Do you think we can start using only ES6 instead of keep using requirejs
syntax on new things that we are building?
How much effort do you think it will be?

Like this patch, as an example, do you think it could have been implemented
without using requirejs?

Thanks

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:26 AM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> Thanks, applied.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Please find rebased patch.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>
>>> Can you rebase this please?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Please find updated patch with following changes,
>>>> - Combined Filter and Data sorting together same as pgAdmin3.
>>>> - Extracted model into separate file
>>>> - Change the colour of filter button from orange to blue.
>>>> - Updated docs and screenshot.
>>>>
>>>> @Joao,
>>>> Could you please provide any reference for learning more about jasmine
>>>> test framework?
>>>> ​
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Murtuza Zabuawala
>>>> EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Robert Eckhardt <reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Robert Eckhardt <
>>>>>> reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
>>>>>>> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:26 PM, Robert Eckhardt <
>>>>>>>>> reckhardt(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 2:07 PM, Joao De Almeida Pereira <
>>>>>>>>>> jdealmeidapereira(at)pivotal(dot)io> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hackers,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Murtuza: The patch codewise looks good. Nice to see that we are
>>>>>>>>>>> using axios instead of jquery ajax calls and that there is some coverage
>>>>>>>>>>> for the change.
>>>>>>>>>>> Nevertheless the Javascript testing looks a bit slim and could
>>>>>>>>>>> be improved. Also the DataSorting class could have some other member
>>>>>>>>>>> functions like the model validation could be extracted out so that it is
>>>>>>>>>>> easily tested.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Hackers: This was how we tried to test this feature:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1 - Started pgAdmin
>>>>>>>>>>> 2 - Opened the query tool for a specific server
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 - Executed a SQL statment
>>>>>>>>>>> 4 - Pressed the column header to try to order, nothing happened
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 - Right clicked the column header to see if it was there the
>>>>>>>>>>> option, nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is the behavior that we were expecting, not to have to open
>>>>>>>>>>> Data View and then press the icon that is not even near the grid in order
>>>>>>>>>>> to sort the column. Is this really the way we want people to use the grid
>>>>>>>>>>> in pgAdmin? Should it be more intuitive?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have we considered making the grid behave more like excel or
>>>>>>>>>> other grids? I think that having the ascending and descending inside the
>>>>>>>>>> column header, we could similarly provide filtering. Something that would
>>>>>>>>>> give users a more intuitive place to look.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doing the sorting via header clicks is convenient but very
>>>>>>>>> restrictive. How do you specify multiple columns to sort by for example?
>>>>>>>>> The current design allows you to select columns and the sort order as you
>>>>>>>>> see fit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Honestly I'm not sold on my idea, I was just proposing an
>>>>>>> alternative in an effort to start a discussion about the user experience.
>>>>>>> Ideally what I'd like to see, maybe this happened, is some user research.
>>>>>>> When we initial worked on refactoring the results grid we made a bunch of
>>>>>>> changes. One of the things we intended to do was to follow up to see how
>>>>>>> people were using the grid now so that we could better understand how it
>>>>>>> was now being used in order to design and implement features just like
>>>>>>> this. Clearly we haven't gotten there yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another reason we can't use that because w
>>>>>>>> e have already occupied that behaviour for selecting entire column
>>>>>>>> ​ when user clicks on header.
>>>>>>>> As Dave suggested, I will be merging it with filter dialog meaning
>>>>>>>> it will be accessible via direct button on toolbar & keyboard shortcut.​
>>>>>>>> ​
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How are users currently interacting with that filter dialog?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ​By clicking on the toolbar button as well as keyboard shortcut.
>>>>>> ​
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I wasn't clear. My question was more along the lines of, do we
>>>>> know if people are using the filter functionality? What kind of
>>>>> filters are people using? What do they like about it? What do they wish
>>>>> they could do above and beyond sorting, etc.
>>>>>
>>>> ​I have not done any data gathering from users so I can't comment on
>>>> your queries.
>>>> ​ but a​
>>>> ​s far as I understood from the feature requests that most of the users
>>>> expect to have functionality which will allow then to sort columns as it
>>>> was in pgAdmin3.​
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -- Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I'm suggesting is that we understand how users want to interact
>>>>>>> with their results, be those the results of a query or a table view, then
>>>>>>> we can design something that meets those needs. I agree that changing the
>>>>>>> column selection behavior isn't desirable, however, I also feel like
>>>>>>> providing the best user experience is better than holding onto a particular
>>>>>>> feature implementation.
>>>>>>> ​
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Dave Page
>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>>>>>>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Page
>>> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
>>> Twitter: @pgsnake
>>>
>>> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
>>> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dave Page
> Blog: http://pgsnake.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @pgsnake
>
> EnterpriseDB UK: http://www.enterprisedb.com
> The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
>

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