Re: pgAdmin4 - Issue of unmaintained libraries

From: Joao De Almeida Pereira <jdealmeidapereira(at)pivotal(dot)io>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
Cc: Murtuza Zabuawala <murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgAdmin4 - Issue of unmaintained libraries
Date: 2018-04-03 20:09:13
Message-ID: CAE+jjakK0nvgC+sWSzh7D4UjbQtOFBwTAL1G2vP9DUwLH2B-UA@mail.gmail.com
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Hi Dave,

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 8:32 AM Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:

> Hi
>
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Murtuza Zabuawala <
> murtuza(dot)zabuawala(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> As we are heavily dependent on 3rd party JS libraries and some of them
>> are no longer actively maintained by their respective authors (Last commit
>> was approximate year ago).
>>
>> Some of the core libraries which are no longer actively maintained are,
>> - Backbone <https://github.com/jashkenas/backbone/releases>
>> - wcDocker <https://github.com/WebCabin/wcDocker/releases>
>> - aciTree <https://github.com/dragosu/jquery-aciTree/releases>
>> - Backgrid <https://github.com/cloudflare/backgrid/releases>/Backform
>> - jQuery 1.x <https://github.com/jquery/jquery/releases/tag/1.12.4>
>> version
>>
>> What would be our future plans when it comes to fixing the issues in the
>> core libraries or adding new feature?
>> (Ref: Email thread
>> <https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CAKKotZSdDt891jVAnjjpq2uXyKaNFcVh0o4boL-gu6yGTTk8OA%40mail.gmail.com>
>> )
>>
>
> Well jQuery can be updated can't it?
>
> wcDocker is, as far as I'm aware, the only library of it's kind. Unless
> something else has surpassed it in the last couple of years, there's
> nothing even close in functionality to it. aciTree was in a similar
> position, though Joao and team think there may be other candidates now.
>

About the wcDocker, in fact it as a lot of features. In our User Interviews
we didn't find any person that was using features like dragging and
creating new panels. The only feature that we see people using was the
tabs. So if the only feature that people use of wcDocker is really tabs
there are some other libraries like:
react-tabs or react-tabtab (Draggable tabs) or rc-tabs(Static tabs, with
52k Downloads last 7 days).

For ACITree we already started the process of isolating it from the
application, This will allow us in the future to replace it with something
that is more up to date.

> As for Backbone/Backgrid/Backform, I don't know. Backbone could maybe be
> replaced with React eventually. Not sure about the others.
>
> In any case, this is likely to be a problem on an ongoing basis - and I
> think we need to consider the future on a case by case basis when
> necessary. It may mean moving to a different library, or it may mean
> forking components, or it may be the upstream may have not had any commits
> for a long time simply because there is no development happening right now,
> but bugs may still be fixed.
>
>
We understand and agree that this should be handled case-by-case instead of
replacing everything at once since it is not feasible to do a complete
rewrite of the application. But we also think it's hard to build new
features on top of libraries that are no longer supported. We don't really
want to fork a library either because we'll become responsible for
maintaining that library, which means maintaining more code. We want to
use libraries that are actively maintained so we can get security patches,
new features, etc. Also, if we need a new functionality on a specific
library, we can, for example, open an issue and the maintainers of that
library can implement it for us or we can create a pull request for them to
merge.

Thanks,

Victoria & Joao

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>
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